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The Flying White Elephant

Discussion in 'The Americas' started by Picdelamirand-oil, Feb 13, 2013.

  1. PeegooFeng41

    PeegooFeng41 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    This .... is impossible. This cann't happen. No one in any kind of professional setting is dumb enough to keep the default password of a user facing application or do not implement a De-militarized zone firewall. Or MOUNT THE FUCKEN NETWORK SHARE WITH DOMAIN ADMIN ACCOUNT!!!111 This is NOT POSSIBLE!
    A Defense contractor cannot do this. THEY ARE IN DEFENCE BUSINESS FOR JESUS FUCKING CHRIST SAKE!
     
  2. Picdelamirand-oil

    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Lockheed Martin delays F-35 Block 3F software final certification to February
    Pat Host - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
    17 November 2017

    Key Points
    • Lockheed Martin expects to complete F-35 Block 3F final certification in February
    • This is later than a previously estimated goal of the end of 2017
    A Lockheed Martin executive expects the company to complete final certification for the F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) Block 3F full combat capability software in February, a delay from a previously estimated goal of the end of 2017.

    Jeff Babione, executive vice president and general manager of F-35, told Jane’s on 16 November that the company has completed weapon delivery accuracy testing. This, he said, includes dropping all the bombs necessary as well as shooting the required missiles.

    http://www.janes.com/article/75800/...k-3f-software-final-certification-to-february
     
  3. Picdelamirand-oil

    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    somedude Captain FULL MEMBER

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    Another missed deadline. Who is surprised?
     
  5. Gessler

    Gessler Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    Possible cut to British F-35 order considered before Parliament
    MoD claims it's still committed but warns of 'uncertainty'

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    Rising costs might force the UK to reduce its order of F-35 fighter jets, the House of Commons has been told.

    Lieutenant General Mark Poffley, chief of British military capability, told the Commons Defence Committee that he was "sympathetic" to the idea of reducing Britain's planned order of 138 F-35B jets.

    The short takeoff and vertical landing (STOVL) aircraft is the only modern fighter capable of flying from Britain's two new aircraft carriers, the Queen Elizabeth-class. So far the UK has ordered 48 of the aircraft and 13 have been delivered to RAF training squadrons based in America so far.

    Costs have been a hot potato for the British F-35 programme – the initial order of 48 airframes has cost the taxpayer £9.2bn. This price (£191m per F-35B) includes the cost of spares, maintenance and training. The bare-bones price of the aircraft alone has been hotly disputed over recent months, though the MoD has previously said it hopes the manufacturer, US firm Lockheed Martin, will bring it down to below £100m per jet.

    Negotiation for F-35 purchases is done by the American F-35 Joint Project Office. The UK has a contract with the JPO, which then carries out the actual negotiations over price. As a result of that contract, the JPO also decides which companies will win maintenance contracts – meaning British suppliers are obliged to deal with an American government agency instead of the MoD, which has previously insisted that it bought the F-35s outright and did not lease them. Though UK-headquartered multinational BAE Systems builds about 15 per cent of the F-35, it is not clear whether this is done in the UK or through BAE's American subsidiary.

    Concerningly, at yesterday's Parliamentary hearing, committee chairman Julian Lewis MP commented that the drip-feed purchase of F-35s put it on a "similar" footing to Britain's order of Type 45 destroyers for the Navy some years ago. Originally planned to comprise 12 warships, the order was salami-sliced down to just six ships.

    "What's clear, then, is that the 48 are safe, secure, done-and-dusted, as it were, as far as the financial cost is concerned, but after that there is inevitable uncertainty, that's what you are telling us?" Lewis asked Poffley, as reported by The Telegraph.

    The general replied: "I am afraid that is the reality of the world we are living in."

    Although Britain has publicly committed to buying 138 F-35s, something it restated yesterday, it has not said whether these will be the carrier-enabled B models or the land-based A models. Last year defence minister Harriett Baldwin refused to rule out a purchase of F-35As.

    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/11/22/uk_f35_order_cuts_parliament/

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    @Picdelamirand-oil @BON PLAN @sunstersun @PARIKRAMA

    @BMD @Abingdonboy - Does the MoD believe operating 48 Bs and rest As is more economically sound than just the entire fleet made up of the same type?
     
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    BMD Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    And replace the cut ones with F-35As.
     
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    Gessler Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    The way I see it, the Bs would be limited to 48, mostly (or entirely) for the QECs.

    And the rest (whatever the number could finally be) would be As, meant for replacing the earliest tranches of Typhoons in the 2020s and 2030s.
     
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    The last SDSR said that Typhoons would remain in-service until 2040. The F-35s are replacing the Tornado and the Harrier (although late). I think the split will be more like 80 Bs and 60 As.
     
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    BON PLAN Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    It's probably the best solution with the worst plane.
     
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    BON PLAN Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    140 planes? The max will be 80.
    These 138 was just to obtain labour and 1st rank partner.
     
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    Effectiveness is exactly why they want some As.
     

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