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The Indian Holocaust by the British: Lest We Forget

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  1. CountryFirst2

    CountryFirst2 Lieutenant SENIOR MEMBER

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    This is a thread I started to document the Indian Holocaust that was hidden by western and western-educated Indian historians. So that the news ones here will atleast know. Remember, this is spread over 1757-1947.



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    Educated Indians are aware of the ghastly 2-century imposition of British colonialism on India. However, because history is generally written by non-scientists, most Indians are utterly unaware of the horrendous human cost (1.8 billion violent and non-violent avoidable deaths in the period 1757-1947).


    Under British rule, Indian cultivators were forced to produce for export, and heavily taxed while denied necessary infrastucture, like roads, to move their products to market. As one observer noted, “In this predicament, the cargo of cotton lies sometimes for weeks on the ground, and the merchant is ruined.” Shown: Indian and European merchants trade at the Bombay cotton market, ca. 1870.

    Th British deliberately caused famines in India, in order to force the indigenous population into relief works, such as road-building. The tenant-laborer, writes Carey, “is mercilessly turned from his land and his mud hut, and left to die on the highway.” Here, Indians on their way to the relief works, published in the LondonNews, 1874.

    Queen Victoria, Empress of India, ruled over a people broken by poverty, inhumane treatment, famines, and despair. As one British author wrote: “And this occured in British India—in the reign of Victoria the First. Nor was the event extraordinary and unforeseen. Far from it: 1835-36 witnessed a famine in the northern provinces; 1833 beheld one to the eastward; 1822-23 saw one in the Deccan. They have continued to increase in frequency and extent under our
    sway for more than half a century.”

    During the terrible famine of 1838, according to one reporter, millions of pounds of rice and other edible grains were exported from Calcutta, to feed the kidnapped Indian Coolies, who had been sent to the Mauritius, to work in the fields.


    Breakdown of Death Toll of Indian Holocaust caused during the British (Mis)Rule (Note: These are just the figures of the British-man-made famines, it does not include the Epidemics induced by Famines, Anglo-Indian Wars, Indians killed fighting for the British, Freedom Fighters martyred by the British. If all these are included the figures reaches over 1.8 Billion mark (ignored by Anglo Media)):

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    Details and links for the British Educated Fifth Column Indians (basic background, more details will be added later):


    Unless we know the root causes of our Indian history we cannot understand the present conditions and conflicts of the country. It is important to understand that this history will never be taught from our perspective because it is not in the interest of colonial masters to create revolutionaries. Only the completely brainwashed could deal with the history of the European’s genocidal hatred of the Indians without emotional pain. To not feel the ‘people pain’ meted out in such colossal dosages is to be already dead, a mere intellectual stone, a programmed creature unconnected to our own ancestors.”

    FEEL THE PAIN of your ancestors to protect your descendants

    Apart from the references provided below, here are a few books I would recommend on the subject :

    1. Late Victorian Holocausts: El Niño Famines and the Making of the Third World, Mike Davis, Verso Books.

    2. “Famines and Land Assessments in India”, Romesh Chunder Dutt. Available for free download from : http://www.archive.org/stream/faminesandlanda00duttgoog

    3. The Economic History of India Under Early British Rule. From the Rise of the British Power in 1757 to the Accession of Queen Victoria in 1837. Vol. I, Romesh Chunder Dutt.

    The Economic History of India in the Victorian Age. From the Accession of Queen Victoria in 1837 to the Commencement of the Twentieth Century, Vol. II, Romesh Chunder Dutt.

    4. Churchill’s Secret War: The British Empire and the Forgotten Indian Famine of World War II, Madhusree Mukherjee, 2010.

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    References for Figures Listed in the Table :

    1. Dutt, Romesh Chunder (1908). The economic history of India under early British rule, Pg. 52

    2. Grove, Richard H. (2007), “The Great El Nino of 1789–93 and its Global Consequences: Reconstructing an Extreme Climate Event in World Environmental History”, The Medieval History Journal 10 (1&2): Pg. 75–98

    3. Ibid

    4. Reference 1: Digby, William. Prosperous British India, Pg.127.
    Reference 2 : Dutt, RC. Famines and Land Assessments in India, Pg.3

    5. Ibid

    6. Ibid

    7. Digby, William. Prosperous British India, Pg.127

    8. Reference 1: Digby, William. Prosperous British India, Pg.127.
    Reference 2 : Dutt, RC. Famines and Land Assessments in India, Pg.5

    9. Ibid

    10. Ibid

    11. Ibid

    12. Ibid

    13. Fieldhouse, David (1996), “For Richer, for Poorer?”, in Marshall, P. J., The Cambridge Illustrated History of the British Empire, Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. Pp. 400, pp. 132

    14. Reference 1: Digby, William. Prosperous British India, Pg.127.
    Reference 2 : Dutt, RC. Famines and Land Assessments in India, Pg.9

    15. Ibid

    16. Ibid

    17. A Maharatna, The Demography of Famine, quoted by Mike Davis, Late Victorian Holocausts, El Nino Famines and Making of the Third World, pg 7,table P1.

    18. Digby, William. Prosperous British India, Pg.128

    19. Ibid

    20. Ibid

    21. Ibid

    22. The Lancet 16 may 1901, quoted in Mike Davis. Late Victorian Holocausts, El Nino Famines and Making of the Third World, pg 7, table P1

    23. Maharatna quoted by Mike Davis, Late Victorian Holocausts, El Nino Famines and Making of the Third World, pg 174

    24. Bengal Tiger and British Lion: An Account of the Bengal Famine of 1943, Richard Stevenson, Pg.139
    Famines in Bengal: 1770-1943, K C Ghosh, pg.111
    Famine Inquiry Commission Report, 1943. Pg.110

    http://cecaust.com.au/foodcrisis/H Carey British free trade.pdf

    Churchill’s Crimes From Indian Holocaust To Palestinian Genocide
    http://www.countercurrents.org/polya230109.htm

    How many Indians died in the genocides committed by the British Raj?
    http://jambudveep.wordpress.com/201...n-the-genocides-committed-by-the-british-raj/

    Bengal Famine Man-Made
    News Article – The Sydney Morning Herald Tuesday 16 November 1943
    http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/17882909

    Anglo Holocaust Denial – BBC’s “The Story of India” IGNORES Bengal Famines & British Indian Holocaust
    http://creative.sulekha.com/anglo-h...-famines-british-indian-holocaust_412021_blog

    Churchill’s Famine?
    http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?266849

    INDIAN HOLOCAUST under British Raj: 1.8 BILLION excess deaths
    https://sites.google.com/site/muslimholocaustmuslimgenocide/indian-holocaust

    British in India : Slavery and Famine
    http://cecaust.com.au/foodcrisis/H Carey British free trade.pdf

    Censorship by the BBC which ignores the 1942-1945 Bengali Holocaust & 1757-1947 Indian Holocaust
    http://creative.sulekha.com/censors...ocaust-1757-1947-indian-holocaust_556742_blog

    The Forgotten Holocaust – The 1943/44 Bengal Famine
    http://globalavoidablemortality.blogspot.in/2005/07/forgotten-holocaust-194344-bengal.html

    Churchill’s Bengali Holocaust. Inadvertent confessions of Britain’s #1 war criminal
    https://sites.google.com/site/palestinegenocideessays/churchill-s-bengali-holocaust

    Listen to: The Bengal Famine
    http://www.open.edu/openlearn/histo...ial-economic-history/listen-the-bengal-famine
     
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  2. Himanshu Pandey

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    1.8 billion? seriously
     
  3. Averageamerican

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    There were only about 6 million English and there were 200 million Indians and blaming the british for every famine an natural disaster is quite a stretch.
     
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    Organized greed and some extra gunpowder. Guess a sneaky foreign company enslaving an entire sub continent is also a 'bit of a stretch'.
     
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    Agreed but will you tell that to Eastern Europeans who blame everything on the Russian rule since the past 400-500-whatever years and say that America is a very humanist country???? because very few people on this site must know how USA and its Radio Free Europe and VOA brainwash the Eastern Europeans against the Russians.
     
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    I didn't expect like this from you.. [MENTION=268]Averageamerican[/MENTION]
     
  7. jonas

    jonas Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Seems to me that Indians managed to kill each other in vast numbers without any help from the British.


    By MV Kamath


    To read the history of India is to shed tears. Down the centuries outsiders have invaded the country and the people have paid dearly for it. The reason why, for instance, many Muslim rulers could conquer India was simply because Hindu rulers at home would not unite to fight a common enemy. As Knapp puts it in plain terms, “there was a continuous struggle and warfare between the various Rajput states and these rivalries it was which made it impossible for the Rajput rulers to join hands to oust the Ghazaniavids from the Punjabâ€￾. When they could not – or would not – fight, they sought peace by giving their daughters in marriage to the invader. And so they survived.

    Our history books are also, even today, hesitant to tell the truth about the conquerors. Knapp records that the Bahmani Sultans of Central India made a rule to kill 100,000 Hindus every year. In 1399, Timur killed 100,000 Hindus in a single day, plus more at times. Knapp quotes KS Lal, the historian, as saying that between 1000 AD and 1525 AD, The Hindu population decreased by as many as 80 million.
    Says Knapp: “This probably is the biggest holocaust in the history of the whole world, right there in Indiaâ€￾. And he rightly asks: “Yet, not many people have either forgotten this threat to the Indian Hindu population or have never heard or learned about it? This negation of Indian history is itself a crime against its population, when the people should know and learn lessons from the pastâ€￾.

    It is not just Muslim invaders who tried to destroy Hinduism – call it Vedic religion, if necessary – in India. The Portuguese rulers in Goa were no less cruel and barbaric. The inquisition they practised once every two years was even worse than any Muslim imposition of Islam on Hindus. One of the Jesuits was to write: “When I have finished baptising the people, I order them to destroy the huts in which they keep their idols; and I have them break the statues of their idols into tiny pieces, since they are now Christians. I could never come to an end describing to you the great consolation which fills my soul when I see idols being destroyed by the hands of those who had been idolatorsâ€￾.

    For all that and all that, Hinduism has survived and it is even getting accepted abroad, though Hinduism does not believe in conversion. A well known US media personality is quoted as saying: “Now we are all Hindusâ€￾. In Russia, Knapp claims, one per cent of the population aver that they are Hindus. But, it would seem, the worst enemies of Hinduism are Hindus themselves. They are giving up their own Vedic heritage and culture which Knapp describes as “the last bastion of deep spiritual truthâ€￾. As he puts it: “The Vedic culture and philosophy offers deep insight into spiritual knowledge that can be found nowhere elseâ€￾ and “it provides for levels of thought and knowledge of the soul and the Supreme, and the spiritual reality that are hardly matched elsewhereâ€￾.

    The book is divided into four parts. Part One recalls the war against India’s ancient traditions. Knapp insists that “we have to remember that a true religion paves the war for everyone to become spiritually aware and to establish his or her own relationship with the Supreme and the Vedic system is an ideal means for supplying thatâ€￾. Indeed, he says, “the spiritual principles in the Vedic system are universal, meaning they can be applied in any time or place in the universeâ€￾. Part Two describes the battle waged by Indians to protect their culture and what the Ghaznis, the Ghoris, the Slave Sultans, the Khaljis, the Sayyids and the Lodis did to plunder temples and destroy places of worship and otherwise seek to eliminate Hindu culture and civilisation.

    Knapp details the sacking of Chidambaram and Sri Rangam, the plunder of Puri’s Jagannath Temple, Sikandar Lodi’s treatment of Mathura, the destruction of Dwarka, the Govindaji Temple in Vrindavan, the Keshava Temple in Mathura, to name a few. What the Portuguese did in Goa is not forgotten, nor what Christian missionaries elsewhere did. One whole chapter is given to the impact of British rule in India.
    Part Three deals with the flase image sought to be imposed on Indians by the vicious propagation of the Aryan Invasion theory and the damage it has wrought. Casteism is seen as a scourge of Hinduism or a perversion of a legitimate Vedic System that needs to be fought or at least seen in its proper perspective. Knapp also discusses such issues as the dowry system, bonded labour, malnutrition of poor children and saving the girl child. He spares none. As for the concept of ‘Aryan’ and ‘Dravidian’, Knapp insists that it was used by the British to establish a lower class of Indians who were oppressed by a higher class, and to enable the rulers to “divide the Indian people into quarreling factionsâ€￾. According to him, the idea of ‘Aryan’ and ‘Dravistian’ people as separate races is not only ‘insidious’, but “completely flaseâ€￾.

    Part Four is more focused on Sanatana dharma and how to educate the GenNext on our Vedic heritage and establish an ‘Open-door’ policy of sharing our culture and traditions with others. Knapp is extremely upset over the manner in which state governments have taken over temples, literally robbing them of their income and using the revenues for purposes other than providing succour to Hindus. An agry knapp says: “The threat to the survival of Hindu civilisation is real … Hindus should not sit quiet, but must be activeâ€￾. He rubbishes the “elite of Indiaâ€￾ who damn any Hindu who stands up for his religion as having a “Hindutva mind-setâ€￾ and one wishing to “saffronise the nationâ€￾.

    A chapter on Kashmir should be must reading. This is where Knapp says “as many as 60,000 people were killed, 750,000 rendeced homeless and 600 villages renamed with Islamic namesâ€￾. Adds Knapp: “Inspite of the protests by the Kashmiri Pundits, the world looked the other way and remained silent. India’s government did next to nothing. Even Human Rights activists remained silent, it was another holocaust in India against Hindus with no help from anyoneâ€￾. There is one unspoken message in this work, to our secularists. It is: “Read itâ€￾. But who wants to listen to Truth?

    Merry Christmas and a happy new year !!
     
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    What,you didn't expect anyone to tell the truth ?

    There are non as blind,as they that cannot see !!
     
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    Holocaust ? :rofl: Jus can't believe how history can be skewed for ones own agenda....

    Past is Bloody there is nothing that can be said to fix it. Hope the future is bright.
     
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    Zeus_@21 Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    Bla bla bla bla bla......:blah::blah::blah::blah:
     
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    Some very deep thinking been going on there.:victory:
     
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    Zeus_@21 Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    why do u guys take everything so seriously??? :troll:
     
  13. Averageamerican

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    With very good reason Holodomor

    The Holodomor (Ukrainian: Голодомор, "Extermination by hunger" or "Hunger-extermination";[2] derived from 'Морити голодом', "Killing by Starvation" [3][4][5]) was a man-made famine in the Ukrainian SSR in 1932 and 1933.[6] During the famine, which is also known as the "Terror-Famine in Ukraine" and "Famine-Genocide in Ukraine",[7][8][9] millions of citizens of Ukrainian SSR, the majority of whom were Ukrainians, died of starvation in a peacetime catastrophe unprecedented in the history of Ukraine.[10] Since 2006, the Holodomor has been recognized by Ukraine and several other countries as a genocide of the Ukrainian people.[11]

    Early estimates of the death toll by scholars and government officials varied greatly; anywhere from 1.8[12] to 12 million[13] ethnic Ukrainians were said to have been killed as a result of the famine. Recent research has since narrowed the estimates to between 2.4[14] and 7.5[15] million. The exact number of deaths is hard to determine, due to a lack of records,[16][17] but the number increases significantly when the deaths inside heavily Ukrainian-populated Kuban are included.[18] Older estimates are still often cited in political commentary.[19] According to the decision of Kyiv Appellation Court, the demographic losses due to the famine amounted to 10 million, with 3.9 million famine deaths, and a 6.1 million birth deficit.[16]

    Scholars disagree on the relative importance of natural factors and bad economic policies as causes of the famine and the degree to which the destruction of the Ukrainian peasantry was premeditated on the part of Joseph Stalin.[10][20][21][22] Some scholars and politicians using the word Holodomor emphasize the man-made aspects of the famine, arguing that it was genocide; some consider the resultant loss of life comparable to the Holocaust.[23] They argue that the Soviet policies were an attack on the rise of Ukrainian nationalism and therefore fall under the legal definition of genocide.[24][25][26][27][28] Other scholars argue that the Holodomor was a consequence of the economic problems associated with radical economic changes implemented during the period of liquidation of private property and Soviet industrialization.[25][26][29][30]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

    Evidently y ou all don't know your history.
     
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    Zeus_@21 Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    Those who think that their ancestors were saint must look deep back into their history. They will find that they were no different than barbaric dacoits, who looted and killed people for wealth. :terrorist:
     
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    Stories behind Famous Sayings



    The Saying: THE ONLY GOOD INDIAN IS A DEAD INDIAN.

    Who Said It: Gen. Philip Sheridan

    When: 1869

    The Story behind It: In January, 1869, General Sheridan held a conference with 50 Indian chiefs at Fort Cobb in the so-called Indian Territory (later part of Oklahoma). At that time, Sheridan, who had gained recognition as a Union officer in the Civil War, was in charge of the Dept. of the Missouri. One of his duties was to oversee the Indian Territory, making sure that the Indians remained on their reservations and did not harass the white settlers. When Comanche chief Toch-a-way was introduced to Sheridan at the conference, the Indian said, "Me Toch-a-way, me good Indian." Sheridan reportedly smirked and replied, "The only good Indians I ever saw were dead." Later on, the remark became "The only good Indian is a dead Indian."


    Don't get upset he was not talking about you all.
     
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