The Kashmir Conflict

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  1. Karthic Sri
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    OIC - Organisation of Islamic Countries....Big Deal. !!!
     
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    Kashmir step by step: the next round of talks

    On the face of it, this summer in India-Pakistan engagement has been defined by the discovery of Osama bin Laden, the revelations of David Headley and Tahawwur Rana, and the intense turmoil inside Pakistan that has unleashed another round of deadly attacks there.

    Even so, as the Foreign Secretaries prepare for their next engagement in Islamabad at the end of June, it isn't these events but three significant processes that will define their immediate agenda, particularly on Kashmir.

    The first is the successful conduct of panchayat elections in Jammu and Kashmir that were completed on June 18. Despite some violence in the initial phases, even the killing of a woman candidate by gunmen in Budgam, the voter turnout was between 70-80 per cent. Chief Minister Omar Abdullah called it a “smooth ride” beyond his expectations, marking the first such election in 33 years not overrun by militant attacks, or “interference” from across the Line of Control (LoC).

    In Pakistan's Kashmir (PoK) too, this weekend (June 26) will see Assembly elections and the selection of the next Prime Minister of Azad Jammu and Kashmir (Pakistan's name for it). What has marked these elections from the previous ones is the intense involvement of national parties like the PPP and the PML (Nawaz), with senior leaders as part of the campaign, as well as the participation of the Sindh-based MQM, which for the first time is contesting each of the 41 seats.

    While elections on both sides of the LoC are strengthening the processes on the ground, it is the talks between India and Pakistan that have been building bilateral engagement, with all three processes in significant, albeit coincidental, tandem. Since April this year, the Home, Commerce and Defence Secretaries have all met to discuss issues like Sir Creek and the Tulbul navigation project. As the Foreign Secretaries prepare to review the progress, they will have some cause for satisfaction. While no movement may have been made on Siachen, the blueprint for visa liberalisation, and one of their most expansive economic agreements ever, with Pakistan committing itself in print to granting India MFN status, are welcome. The two sides have agreed to move from the current “positive list” of items for trade to a “negative list,” as well as new investments in the fields of energy and fuel. Most importantly, each meeting has ended with a clear timeline of the next meeting to resolve issues. An optimistic view of India-Pakistan engagement would even be that these bilateral issues need no longer occupy centre stage, as their resolution is in sight — freeing up interlocutors to focus on the two intractable issues: Kashmir and terrorism.

    When it comes to Kashmir, it will be important for them to look at not the formidable size of the gap between the countries, but the remarkable distance already spanned. It is now acknowledged that the two sides came close to a settlement in the past decade. In an interview to CNN-IBN in 2009, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh confirmed that he and Pervez Musharraf had come close to a “non-territorial” solution in Kashmir. While the Musharraf-Manmohan Kashmir four-step has been dismissed by many, let us consider the steps already implemented or are on the anvil.

    The ceasefire along the LoC has held more or less since 2003. On our recent visit to Chakothi on the Pakistani side, district officials showed us how the end of daily firing between the armies has allowed them to develop homes and schools in 19 of the 22 blocks adjoining the LoC. On the Indian side, villagers returned to their homes in places like Kirni in Poonch after more than a decade this April.

    The next step, of demilitarisation of the main towns in the Kashmir Valley, is also evident. Despite fierce protests over the Amarnath yatra, the Shopian deaths, and Tufail Mattoo's killing across the past three summers, it was the police and the paramilitary that had to deal with the situation, while the army remained in the barracks, the exception being a flag march in July 2010 on the outskirts of Srinagar and Baramulla.

    Strengthening local governance is the next step. While both India and Pakistan are unwilling to discuss greater autonomy for the two Kashmirs, regular elections and relative non-interference by the Centres in the States, chronic two decades ago, is another positive sign.

    Finally, the task of making borders irrelevant through cross-LoC linkages and through cross-border management of certain institutions. Despite the tensions post the Mumbai attacks in 2008, the Srinagar-Muzaffarabad and Poonch-Rawalakot bus services have continued, allowing Kashmiris to travel and see the other side for themselves, while truck trade has grown too — with officials discussing increasing the days of trade (from one to three), the crossover points (from three to five), the length of visas (to six months) and finally moving trade from the current, archaic, barter system to a banking one. These are all the steps, once unimaginable, but now leaving their imprint on Kashmiri hearts and minds. Interestingly, on various visits to Pakistani colleges, it is evident that the four-steps are now widely seen by young Pakistanis as the way forward in Kashmir, unthinkable a decade ago.

    The reconciliation of the Kashmiris on both sides will, however, be incomplete without the return of Kashmiri Pandits to the valley. It is heartening to note that this summer both the Mirwaiz and Syed Ali Shah Geelani issued statements calling Pandits an “inseparable part of Kashmiri society.” The Mela Kheer Bhawani festival in June saw thousands of Pandits visit the Valley, though it may have been the recent election of Pandit woman Asha as the Sarpanch of Wussan village near Srinagar that caused the extra cheer.

    The next step on Kashmir, however, will come only from introspection in New Delhi and Islamabad. The Indian government needs to understand that the absence of violence in the Valley is not peace, and that development and dignity for all Kashmiris go hand in hand. For its part, Pakistan's government must recognise that violence will never bring peace for Kashmiris, and will imperil all Pakistanis. Perhaps there's no greater proof of that than the case of terrorist Ilyas Kashmiri — who commanded 313 brigade raised by the ISI to fight India, but spent his later years planning attacks on the Pakistani military — from the GHQ attack in Rawalpindi to the Mehran naval base attack in Karachi — apart from his hand in the Mumbai attacks, the Marriott bombing and others. Kashmiri's death may be a mystery, but his diabolical life sends a clear message to Pakistan.

    For both sides heading to their next round of talks, it is time to recognise that in the turmoil of India-Pakistan ties, a few windows of hope still remain. As an American pastor once famously said, “most people fail to recognise great opportunities because they come brilliantly disguised as impossible situations.”
     
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    Two militants killed in encounter in Jammu and Kashmir
    Press Trust of India, Updated: June 27, 2011 11:23 IST

    Srinagar: Two militants were killed on Monday in an encounter with security forces in Pulwama district of south Kashmir, officials said.

    A gunbattle broke out between militants and security forces at Shikargah in Tral area of Pulwama, 40 km from Srinagar, last night, the officials said.

    Two militants were killed in the operation that lasted nearly 12 hours, they said.

    The identity and group affiliation of the slain militants are being ascertained, the officials said.


    Two security forces personnel were reportedly injured in the operation, but officials did not confirm it.
     
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    If true, lets hope its not serious and they get well soon.
     
  5. Observer
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    There should be a Scenario 8, where the present LOC be made as an International Border and No Independent Country be carved out of the present land from Indian administered region as Independent kashmir and Indian Govt should make J&K same like India's other sates with no special powers like autonomy.
     
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    Militant hideout busted in J&K, huge cache of arms recovered
    PTI | Jun 28, 2011, 12.45pm IST

    JAMMU: A militant hideout was busted and a huge cache of arms and ammunition was recovered by security forces in Jammu and Kashmir's Kishtwar district on Tuesday.

    On specific information, Rashtriya Rifles troops and police launched a search operation in Makla Nallah area of Kishtwar district and busted the hideout, an army spokesman said here.

    During the operation, security forces recovered a 12 bore rifle, a .303 rifle, 2 Chinese pistols with magazines, 4 RPGs, 3 UBGL grenades, 4 hand grenades, 6 hand held radio sets, 3 SLR magazine, 6 AK magazine and 43 rounds of AK rifle, he said.

    In a similar operation on Monday, security forces busted another militant hideout and recovered an arms cache in Ramban district of Jammu and Kashmir.
     
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    Indian Army organises Kashmir Premier League T20 to win Hearts and Minds

    Indian Army organises Kashmir Premier League T20 to win Hearts and Minds | bettor.com
     
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    ^ why is there no team from Jammu region or Ladakh ?
     
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    ^^^ Total 193 Teams from All Over JnK took Part , Only 14 Got selected for 2nd Phase....Teams from Jammu Didnt Make It

    Most Of the Teams were from 'Kashmir Valley'

    Kashmir Premier League - T20 Championship Talent Hunt
     
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    IED found near liquor shop at Dal lake
    Peerzada Ashiq, Hindustan Times
    Srinagar, June 30, 2011

    Suspected militants planted an improved explosive device (IED) at tourist hub Boulevard on the banks of Dal lake near a hotel housing a liquor shop. The IED was detected during a routine patrol. "The bomb was detected in a tin container near Hotel Heemal," said a police officer. The police said the bomb, left in a parking lot, was defused without causing any loss of life. Thousands of tourists, at present, stay in hotels housed on the bank of Boulevard, which stretches up to 22 km. This year, the night life had also returned to the valley with tourists flocking favourite destinations late in the night. More than four lakh tourists have traveled Kashmir so far.
    A police officer on the condition of anonymity said the bomb could have been targeted at the liquor shop and not tourists. Militants banned all liquor shops in Kashmir in 1990s. Very few liquor shops function in Kashmir valley now.

    "I do not think it was explosives. It’s a rumour," said SDPO Nehru Park Ghulam Geelani. It seems the police in the evening decided not to scare the tourists with such news.
     
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    ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani on Monday said the government would support the Kashmir cause at all international forum and would use diplomatic means to highlight the issue.

    He said the Pakistan People’s Party was committed to continue the moral, diplomatic and political support to this cause until the issue was resolved according to the wishes of the Kashmiri people.

    Prime Minister Gilani was speaking to a delegation of the People’s Party Azad Jammu and Kashmir along with Senator Jehangir Badar, Secretary General Pakistan People’s Party at the PM House.

    Prime Minister Gilani observed that being Chairman Kashmir Council, he would ensure that the Kashmir cause was highlighted at all forums.

    He also assured the Kashmiri brethren that the government of Pakistan would continue providing adequate resources for the development of Azad Jammu and Kashmir.

    The delegation congratulated Prime Minister Gilani on the victory of the PPP in AJK elections and appreciated his positive role in the positive projection of the Kashmir cause and mobilisation of party workers during the election campaign.

    Senator Jahangir Badar termed this victory as an expression of the confidence of the Kashmiri people on the policies of the PPP.

    Govt to support Kashmir cause at international forums, says PM | Pakistan | DAWN.COM
     
  12. Rocky 71
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    Solution #8

    1. Let Pakistan keep the Northern Areas it has amalgamated. Let India keep Leh.

    2. With the rest of Pakistani and Indian J&K form an independent state to be a member of UN. The people of this state will have unrestricted entry into both India and Pakistan. They will also have unrestricted trade with these two nations. However, neither India nor Pakistan nationals will have unrestricted entry facility into J&K.

    3. If most importantly USA agrees to this formula, it should be passed by a referendum to legalize.

    4. For 5 years an UN troops contingent to be present in J&K. It will also help raise a military force for the new nation. An UN Police contingent will also be present for 5 years. They will help raise a local police force. After 5 years J&K govt will decide whether to keep the UN contingents, and if so, whether to increase or decrease numbers.
     
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    Both Sides Wouldnt Agree On this :nono:
     
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    Solution 3 is best Option Followed By Option 1.
     
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    Its really hard for me to belive anyone would want to live in Pakistan where you can be even be excuted if you want to change religions. I guess something like that is impossible to understand in that freedom of religion is even a part of our constitution. I think that is one of the reasons Pakistan is so screwed up.
     

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