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The Kashmir Conflict

Discussion in 'Internal Affairs' started by desiman, Jun 23, 2010.

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Which solution woud you like ?

Poll closed Apr 24, 2017.
  1. Solution 1

    45.4%
  2. Solution 2

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  3. Solution 3

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  4. Solution 4

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  5. Solution 5

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  6. Solution 6

    5.2%
  7. Solution 7

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  1. Sanjeeb Bose

    Sanjeeb Bose Lieutenant SENIOR MEMBER

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    Pakistan has lost Kashmir no doubt about it... the last nail was in 1998 tit for tat nuclear test.... There cannot be full blown war between the two while we maintain the status quo....What we have to follow as Carrot & Stick policy... come down very hard on the terrorists at the same time provide good governance & employment to the youth of Kashmir... we need peace & sustained growth of 9% for next 10 years and it will put beyond Pakistan's reach to match India.
     
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  2. lucifer

    lucifer Lieutenant SENIOR MEMBER

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    what do you mean hold on to Kashmir?? Its an integral part of India, holding onto it is irrelevant. Its just like any other state in India.
    Dont know about that, perhaps when their ruling elite can no longer divert attention of the balochs towards kashmir claiming it as a freedom struggle or struggle for sovereignty, pakistan will have to face a dire clash amongst its own people
     
  3. BlueOval

    BlueOval Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    The way we held on to Punjab in those trouble times of Khalistan movement...that's what I mean.
     
  4. Hembo

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    Lashkar’s face in Valley killed in Sopore encounter

    Lashkar’s face in Valley killed in Sopore encounterPosted: Wed Sep 14 2011, 01:20 hrs

    Srinagar: Top Lashkar-e-Toiba commander Abdullah Ooni, one of the Valley’s most wanted militants with a bounty of Rs 20 lakh on his head, was killed in an encounter in Sopore today, police said.

    Ooni, 27, was the face of the Lashkar in Kashmir, and had been instrumental in galvanising cadres of the militant organisation in Sopore town. He was an IED expert, officials said, and a master of disguise who had escaped the police dragnet at least a dozen times over the past few years.

    “Ooni was killed after the police received specific information that he was hiding in the Batpora Baghat locality,†Inspector General of Police, Kashmir Range, S M Sahai, said. The killing, Sahai said, is the second major setback suffered by the Lashkar following the killing of its five commanders in Lolab earlier.

    Ooni, who belonged to Mansehra in Pakistan, crossed into the Valley at the time of the 2005 earthquake, and last year married a Sopore girl called Tabassum. A few months ago, she delivered a baby girl at a government hospital in Srinagar. Tabassum identified her husband’s body soon after he was killed today, police said.

    “We got the body identified by his wife. The body also matched pictures of Ooni that police and other security agencies had,†said a senior officer who was part of the operation.

    Police said they had received a tip-off that Ooni had come to meet his wife in Sopore’s Batapora Baghat locality last night. He was killed by police and Army assault teams inside an abandoned house nearby after an encounter this afternoon, they said.

    Sopore superintendent of police Imtiyaz Hussain Mir told The Indian Express that his men had been keeping a close tab on Ooni’s movements for a month now. “We launched eight operations to nab or kill him over the last week. Today’s operation was the ninth one,†Mir said.

    “We would generally conduct late-night operations or try to encircle him at the crack of dawn. This time, we knew that he had come to meet his wife and was there for the night, but we changed our strategy and cordoned off the house only at 9 am.

    “Ooni jumped out of a window and took refuge in an abandoned house nearby. We followed. He threw a grenade and then opened fire,†Mir said.

    Ooni, the police said, was finally killed at 1 pm. “He was alone,†Mir said. “I have received splinter injuries on my face, but all our men are safe.â€

    The police’s initial information that Ooni, the Lashkar’s North Kashmir chief, would be accompanied by two other top Lashkar commanders, Muzaffar alias Molvi and Akash Bader, turned out to be incorrect. A pistol was found on Ooni.

    After entering Kashmir in the Kupwara sector, Ooni initially operated in the Lolab Valley. In 2008, following instructions of his senior commanders, he moved to Sopore. He kept shifting bases between Sopore town, Zanigeer and Kupwara.

    Police investigations linked Ooni to the recent assassination of Jamiat Ahle Hadees chief Molvi Showkat. He was also involved in the booby-trap attack on Sopore police station in July, in which a policeman was killed and nine others were injured. Police said he was also involved in the killing of the teenage sisters Akthara and Arifa in February this year.

    Despite heavy police deployment, protests broke out in Sopore town after the encounter. Youths hurled stones at the police and paramilitary forces.
     
  5. Hembo

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    Militant hideout busted in Kashmir wildlife sanctuary
    HT Correspondent
    Srinagar, September 20, 2011

    The army on Tuesday busted a militant hideout during an operation in Kashmir's largest wildlife sanctuary, Dachigam. "Based on specific information, the Army launched search operations in Dachhigam Reserve Forest near Srinagar. During the search a terrorist hideout was busted and a huge cache of arms and explosives were recovered," said army spokesman.
    The recoveries included one AK 47 rifle, one 60mm mortar, one 7.62 mm LMG, one 303 rifle, two Chinese pistols, AK 47 ammunition 634 rounds, eight UBGL grenades, 10 Chinese grenades, 11 TNT Slabs, five detonators five radio sets, one Global Positioning System (GPS), one Sniper Sight and other war like stores.

    "The hideout was a natural cave in the Dacchigam Reserve Forest and was used by terrorists to hide weapons and ammunition. The busting of this hideout is a severe blow to the militants and will effect their nefarious designs," said the spokesman.
     
  6. Hembo

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    Militant hideout busted in Kashmir wildlife sanctuary
    HT Correspondent
    Srinagar, September 20, 2011

    The army on Tuesday busted a militant hideout during an operation in Kashmir's largest wildlife sanctuary, Dachigam. "Based on specific information, the Army launched search operations in Dachhigam Reserve Forest near Srinagar. During the search a terrorist hideout was busted and a huge cache of arms and explosives were recovered," said army spokesman.
    The recoveries included one AK 47 rifle, one 60mm mortar, one 7.62 mm LMG, one 303 rifle, two Chinese pistols, AK 47 ammunition 634 rounds, eight UBGL grenades, 10 Chinese grenades, 11 TNT Slabs, five detonators five radio sets, one Global Positioning System (GPS), one Sniper Sight and other war like stores.

    "The hideout was a natural cave in the Dacchigam Reserve Forest and was used by terrorists to hide weapons and ammunition. The busting of this hideout is a severe blow to the militants and will effect their nefarious designs," said the spokesman.
     
  7. American Sage

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    As a Non-Biased outsider, I would recommend option Number FOUR - AN INDEPENDENT KASHMIR. Both Pakistan and India should vacate Kashmiri Territory and leave Kashmir for Kashmiris. This is how we treat children, don't we. When kids are fighting over something and neither one wants to give up their claim, we adults say " Well kids, neither one of you gets this".

    If both India and Pakistan vacate Kashmiri territory, neither one can claim the other was favored. Fare and Square, eh ?
     
  8. ManuSankar

    ManuSankar Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    It's not easy as it's seems,the original princely State of Kashmir is now divided between three countries India,Pakistan and China.India and Pakistan claim it as it's own and China claim some parts.India and Pakistan has fought 3 wars over this issue,which makes Kashmir an emotional issue for both.As long as their is no peaceful atmosphere between 2 countries Kashmir issue will be impossible.
     
  9. Hembo

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    AFSPA may go in parts of Jammu and Kashmir
    TNN | Oct 12, 2011, 06.45AM IST

    NEW DELHI: The controversial Armed Forces Special Powers Act (AFSPA), which gives unlimited powers to security forces to search, seize and arrest without any warrant in disturbed areas, may soon be withdrawn from some parts of Jammu & Kashmir.

    Chief minister Omar Abdullah on Tuesday briefed Union home minister P Chidambaram about the improved security situation in the state and spoke to him about the possibility of withdrawing the AFSPA from "certain parts" of J&K. The meeting was a "comprehensive review" of the security situation in the state.

    He said: "We also discussed the possibility of removal of the AFSPA and the Disturbed Areas Act from certain parts of the state. I will return and have a discussion with my cabinet colleagues and officers after which we can take a decision." Omar, however, cautioned that this did not mean there "will be an overnight revocation of the AFSPA or the Disturbed Areas Act from the entire state".

    He added, "We have to see the areas where the footprints of Army was minimal and then go for revocation of the Disturbed Areas Act and subsequently the AFSPA." Under the law, if a state de-notifies Disturbed Areas Act from certain districts, the AFSPA will automatically be withdrawn from those districts.

    Hours before the meeting, the CM had tweeted that he would review the security situation "in the run-up to the offices moving" (moving state government offices from Srinagar to Jammu during winter) when he holds talks with the home minister.

    Asked about the Kashmir interlocutors submitting their report, Omar said, "It was indeed a step in the right direction and after this I hope the Centre will soon convene an all-party meeting to discuss it. I look forward to the report. I hope positive things come out and are implemented."
     
  10. Rudrakx

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  11. Subramanian

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    First make,Jammu and Ladakh independent states by doing a referendum there.Simple as that.

    Then isolate Kashmir valley and occupy army there.
     
  12. ManuSankar

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    Army, police raid militant hideout in Rajouri, seize arms and ammunition

    Rajouri (Jammu and Kashmir), Nov.14 (ANI): In a joint operation, Jammu and Kashmir Police and personnel of the 60 Rashtriya Rifles battalion raided a militant hideout, and seized a cache of arms and ammunition from a forest area in Rajouri district.

    Acting on a tip-off, the team began a combing operation in the Wali Doke Forest belt on Sunday

    he recovery included one AK-47 assault rifle, one 30MM pistol, five UBGL grenades, 45 rounds of AK-47 and 70 rounds of 9MM pistol.

    "So, in that area, he (informer) received some information about a hideout, and thus, he shared this information with us. After that, police and our joint team went for this operation. And today morning, around 1 (local time), we ended the recovery operation. (Q. What all has been recovered from the hideout?) In this recovery, there is one pistol, grenades and some other ammunition besides some medicines, a ICOM set, with the help of which, they used to communicate with each other," said Colonel Neeraj Sood, Commanding Officer of the Indian army's 60 Rashtriya Rifle, while briefing mediapersons.

    The other seized items included two magazines, one ICOM radio set, two bags, one tape recorder, one medicine bottle and a ten feet long rope.

    Colonel Sood further noted that the operation helped in preventing any untoward incident planned by the militants in the region.

    "The importance of this operation is that even today the in Pir Panjal range and other areas under 60 RR, there are still some places where arms and ammunition kept by militants in their hideouts is available. In today's time, when we are saying that peace is prevailing in the entire region, this recovery shows that if these arms and ammunition find their way into the hands of wrongdoers, then they can misuse it against the common people, administration, police forces and army," said Colonel Sood.

    The restive region of Jammu and Kashmir has been witness to numerous militant attacks, insurgency, and infiltration from across the border in the last two decades.

    The Himalayan region is one of the world's most militarised zones, with India deploying close to half a million troops to quell a rebellion that was triggered off in 1989.

    Although militancy has weakened over the past couple of years, the tactic of mass street protests has grown.

    Since Indian Kashmir first witnessed insurgency in 1980s, nearly 50,000 people have been killed in the strife-torn region.(ANI)

    Army, police raid militant hideout in Rajouri, seize arms and ammunition
     
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    One more thing to be pointed out is that the POk gilgit baltistan region.This region is mainly muslims and still the people their are neglected by the pak govt til date.It is the value system which should be seen rather than ethnicity of the govts.
     
  14. Jungibaaz

    Jungibaaz Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    What's the use buddy? Leave them be.
    There are plenty members here who hold distasteful views of our religion.
    I've tried my best to try to talk some sense in to them, so far I've met no success.
     
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