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  1. lca-fan

    lca-fan Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    World War 3: North Korea detonates HYDROGEN BOMB sparking huge EARTHQUAKE - US Japan react
    NORTH Korea has announced it has successfully launched a hydrogen bomb test which sparked a 6.3 magnitude EARTHQUAKE.
    By NICOLE STINSON
    PUBLISHED: 11:05, Sun, Sep 3, 2017 | UPDATED: 15:45, Sun, Sep 3, 2017

    North Korea declares 'successful' hydrogen bomb test

    The artificial quake indicated the H-bomb was 10 times more powerful than North Korea’s fifth nuclear test, according to a South Korean weather agency.

    It has also been reported that it could be 5 times bigger than that of Nagasaki - the nuclear bomb dropped on Japan during World War 2.

    A single bomb of this size is capable of wiping out a major city experts said.

    Kim Jong-un ordered the nation's sixth nuclear test as tensions continue to escalate with the US.

    According to North Korea's state media the test was a "perfect success" and a "meaningful" step in completing the country's nuclear weapons programme.

    It added: ”The H-bomb test was carried out to examine and confirm the accuracy and credibility of the power control technology and internal structural design newly introduced into manufacturing the H-bomb to be placed as the payload of the ICBM.”

    North Korea officials claimed the device could be mounted on its newly developed intercontinental ballistic missiles - which experts have said are capable of reaching the USA.

    The country's meterological agency said that tremors from the bomb were felt far and wide - and the resulting tremors were 10 times as powerful as North Korea's last test.

    Experts estmiated the blast to have been around 10 kilotons - five times larger than the bomb dropped on Nagasaki during World War 2.

    President Trump has responded to the test on Twitter, saying: "North Korea has conducted a major Nuclear Test.

    "Their words and actions continue to be very hostile and dangerous to the United States....."

    He added: "North Korea is a rogue nation which has become a great threat and embarrassment to China, which is trying to help but with little success."

    North Korea conducts 'perfect' hydrogen bomb test
    Sun, September 3, 2017
    North Korea conducted its sixth and most powerful nuclear test, which it said was a successful detonation of an advanced hydrogen bomb

    The UK's foreign secretary Boris Johnson described the test as "reckless" and said the nation's development of a hydrogen bomb "unquestionably present a new order of threat".

    He also put pressure on China - North Korea's only ally - to do more to dissuade Pyongyang from persuing its nuclear programme.

    "There is no question that this is another provocation, it is reckless, what they are doing is they seem to be moving closer towards a hydrogen bomb which, if fitted to a successful missile, would unquestionably present a new order of threat," Mr Johnson said.

    "We have to consider how to respond and it's our view in the UK, overwhelmingly, that peaceful diplomatic means are the best."

    "Our message to the Chinese is, and we are working ever more closely with them, we think there is more scope for you, the Chinese, to put economic pressure on the North Koreans.

    "It has worked, we have seen signs in the last six months of Chinese pressure actually changing the approach of North Koreans - let's see if we can do it again."

    China has condemned the detonation of the bomb.

    The Chinese foreign minstry said in a statement that North Korea "has ignored the international community's widespread opposition, again carrying out a nuclear test".

    "China's government expresses resolute opposition and strong condemnation toward this," it said.

    The hydrogen bomb test is believed to have been conducted at North Korea's Punggye-ri nuclear facility and is its first since Donald Trump took office.

    Just hours earlier President Trump spoke with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe in a phone call about the "escalating" crisis with North Korea.

    Their conversation was triggered by reports from North Korea that it had developed a more advanced nuclear weapon with "great destructive power”.

    Kim Jong-un was also photographed supervising a hydrogen bomb being loaded into an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) capable of reaching the USA.

    [​IMG]GETTY•REUTERS

    North Korea has announced it has conducted a 'successful' hydrogen bomb test
    The US Geological Survey said a magnitude 6.3 tremor struck near a weapons test site in the northeast of North Korea. A second tremor measuring 4.5 was also detected by South Korean officials.

    Some people in China's north eastern provinces were woken by the earthquake.

    Jiemiao Cangxin, who lives in the small Chinese city of Yanji, about 12 miles from the North Korean border, said his apartment shook so badly he and many others fled the building in just their underwear.

    Writing on China's social media platform Weibo, he said: "I put my underpants on and I just ran.

    "And when I reached the first floor, I can say I wasn't the only one running away with just my underpants on!"

    [​IMG]REUTERS

    North Koreans watch a news report on the nuclear test in Pyongyang
    No reports have emerged about whether a ICBM was used during the hydrogen bomb test.

    The Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) said: “Kim Jong-un said he felt the pride at the indomitably bolstering up of [North Korea’s] nuclear forces despite a great price as he watched the Juche-oriented thermonuclear weapon with super explosive power made by our own efforts and technology.

    “He expressed great satisfaction over the fact that our scientists can do anything without fail if the party is determined to do.

    “The scientists further upgraded its technical performance at a higher ultra-modern level on the basis of precious successes made in the first H-bomb test.”


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    A 6.3 magnitude tremor was reported earlier near North Korea's nuclear test site
    KCNA also hit out at earlier reports that its missile parts were imported from the Ukraine as it declared its hyrdrogen bomb was entirely homemade.



    It said: “All components of the H-bomb were homemade and all the processes ranging from the production of weapons-grade nuclear materials to precision processing of components."


    In the last two weeks the despot nation has attempted several missile launches and threatened the US-territory of Guam.

    Earlier on Saturday, Kim Jong-un continued his war of words with US President Donald Trump across international waters, claiming any attempts by the “puppets” to locate North Korea’s ballistic missile launchers will not produce any useful result.

    Japanese foreign minister, Taro Kono described the explosion as "extremely unforgivable."

    Tokyo has registered a protest with the North Korea embassy in Beijing, he said.

    South Korea has called for the strongest possible response in reaction to the test.

    French President Emmanuel Macron and German Chancellor Angela Merkel jointly condemned North Korea's actions, calling the test "a new dimension in provocation".

    Meanwhile South Korean citizens seemed surprisngly relaxed about the nuclear threat.

    Yeon Park, from Gimhae in southern South Korea told the Guardian: "To be honest, not many South Koreans realise the reality [of the situation] including myself.

    "What North Korea is doing is on air everyday on the news, but I don’t think people here care about it a lot.

    "Even I don’t really care about it as this kind of news has occurred many times."
    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...drogen-bomb-pyongyang-kim-jong-un-world-war-3
     
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  2. Hellfire

    Hellfire Devil's Advocate Staff Member MODERATOR

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    He slept - McArthur. He assumed Chinese would never cross the Yalu .. and the rest is, as they say, history ;)
     
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    Hellfire Devil's Advocate Staff Member MODERATOR

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    That being a CYA for his ineptitude when all intelligence indicated 03 x Army Groups amassing near North Korean Border with China and he assumed they were merely posturing. Further ego issues forced him to ignore reports of large scale infiltration across the border by the Chinese Red Army.
     
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  4. sangos

    sangos Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    For some strange reason I feel glad 'mad Kim' has acquired nukes - the guy is just protecting his country in a madder(with greed?) world.
    For some strange reason I feel angry the US and West are back at their old imperial pastime - killing Asians (they still have scant respect for people not of their color. Dont go by their media horseshit that stinks through the screen).
    For some strange reason I feel indifference towards S Korea/Japan - 2 lackeys of the West doing their master's bidding?
    For some strange reason....okay am having a bad day.
     
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    TrueGR!T FULL MEMBER

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    http://world.time.com/2014/01/17/north-koreas-enormous-reserves-of-minerals-could-be-a-game-changer/
    http://www.businessinsider.in/North...rals-worth-trillions/articleshow/59374565.cms
    Nothing to speculate about, just mere coincidence.
    America is only fighting to bring democracy to the poor North Koreans!
     
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  6. sangos

    sangos Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Add Indonesia to the to do list. I mean they 'have democracy".....just needs a bit fixin'.

    http://www.bendbulletin.com/busines...get-majority-stake-in-mine-held?referrer=home
     
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  7. BMD

    BMD Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    It was later, when they were back around the current border position in a stalemate, China didn't yet have nuclear weapons, and McArthur just wanted to nuke them off the front line. Would have worked IMO.
     
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    BMD Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Yeah... the country he stole from his people. And how many North Koreans has the Kim dynasty killed?

    https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.CHAP10.HTM
     
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    sangos Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Let me guess....no competition to the over 200,000 nuked by the USA just in Japan alone. As for 'stealing', best leave it to the Koreans to take a call - my 2 whatever.
     
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    Correct, it's 20 times more than that.

    As for who kills the most Asians, it's Asians.

    Mao - 40 million
    Khymer Rouge - 3 million
    Vietnam - 1.5 million
    NK Kim Dynasty - 3.5 million

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes

    Haven't include general warfare, famines or massacres in the above figures either.
     
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    BMD Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    The only alternative to removing Kim Jong Un is a nuclear armed Japan and SK, which might result in war with China anyway.
     
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    A simple trade ban forced by china will get Kim to his senses. DPRK imports everything from food grains to crude via china.
     
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    BMD Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    If China wanted them to stop, they'd have stopped them a long time ago. But instead they decided to proliferate nuclear weapons to their puppet regime. Well, the consequence of that is nuclear-tipped MRBMS in South Korea and Japan.
     
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    BMD Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    And here we go with Game Theory v2.0.

    https://www.vox.com/world/2017/9/5/16254988/south-korea-nuclear-weapons-north-korea-trump?yptr=yahoo
    When an enemy institutes a provocation that breaks the strategic balance, the only option besides war is an equal but opposite provocation to restore the status quo.
     
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    Flyboy! Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    India has the answer to tackle Kim.

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