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Discussion in 'China & Asia Pacific' started by lca-fan, Apr 13, 2017.

  1. sangos

    sangos Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Not so fast. I missed out on my adding.....Asia - like the Middle East. US invasion of Iraq
    Anyway Imperial british india - 69 million starvation deaths in just one famine alone. Start a no win argument.
     
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    Which famine was that then? It's not like millions don't still die from hunger and malnutrition each year in India even now. There wasn't even 69 million in total over two centuries, whereas the deaths I listed are all post WWII.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_major_famines_in_India_during_British_rule

    Furthermore, are you seriously suggesting that the British were deliberately starving Indians to death but yet still failed to kill even half as many over 200 years as have died during the 70 years of independence, which followed? That would imply that the brutality of British rule was surpassed several fold by mere incompetence. So your choice is either to admit to criminal negligence, or simply accept that feeding India has always been difficult.

    So many Chibots on this site hiding behind the Indian flag.
     
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  3. sangos

    sangos Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Enjoyable "Chibot' with the 'right accent'

     
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    He's what's known as a career complainer. He makes a living out of complaining instead of working. Still, as a politician, it's useful to create a distraction from current problems rather than fixing them.
     
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    U.N. Security Council to vote Monday on weakened North Korea sanctions: diplomats

    The U.N. Security Council is set to vote on Monday on a watered-down U.S.-drafted resolution to impose new sanctions on North Korea over its latest nuclear test, diplomats said, but it was unclear whether China and Russia would support it.

    North Korea warned the United States that it would pay a "due price" for spearheading efforts for fresh sanctions for this month's nuclear test, which followed a series of test missile launches, all in defiance of U.N. sanctions.

    A U.S.-drafted resolution originally calling for an oil embargo on the North, a halt to its key exports of textiles and subjecting leader Kim Jong Un to a financial and travel ban have been weakened, apparently to placate Russia and China which both have veto powers, diplomats said.

    It no longer proposes blacklisting Kim and relaxes sanctions earlier proposed on oil and gas, a draft reviewed by Reuters shows. It still proposes a ban on textile exports.

    North Korea was condemned globally for conducting its sixth nuclear test on Sept 3, which it said was of an advanced hydrogen bomb. NATO head Jens Stoltenberg said at the weekend that North Korea's "reckless behavior", pursuing nuclear and missile programs, was a global threat and required a global response.

    The tensions have weighed on global markets, but on Monday there was some relief among investors that North Korea did not conduct a further missile test this weekend when it celebrated its founding anniversary.

    Still, North Korea denounced efforts by Washington to impose new U.N.-backed sanctions against the country. The North's Foreign Ministry spokesman said the United States was "going frantic" to manipulate the Security Council over Pyongyang's nuclear test, which it said was part of "legitimate self-defensive measures."

    "In case the U.S. eventually does rig up the illegal and unlawful 'resolution' on harsher sanctions, the DPRK shall make absolutely sure that the U.S. pays due price," the spokesman said in a statement carried by the official KCNA news agency.

    DPRK stands for the North's formal name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

    "The world will witness how the DPRK tames the U.S. gangsters by taking a series of actions tougher than they have ever envisaged," the unnamed spokesman said.

    "The DPRK has developed and perfected the super-powerful thermo-nuclear weapon as a means to deter the ever-increasing hostile moves and nuclear threat of the U.S. and defuse the danger of nuclear war looming over the Korean peninsula and the region."

    South Korean President Moon Jae-in said last week during a visit to Russia that shutting off North Korea's supply of oil was inevitable this time to bring Pyongyang to talks and he called for Russian President Vladimir Putin's support.

    http://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1BL12S
     
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    China, Russia join unanimous UNSC vote for US-backed sanctions on North Korea

    The UN Security Council has unanimously voted to adopt fresh US-backed sanctions against North Korea over its nuclear tests.

    The resolution was adopted on Monday, after the US agreed to revise its initially proposed resolution following concerns by Russia and China.

    “We are done trying to prod the regime from doing the right thing," said US Ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley. "We are now trying to stop it from having the ability to do the wrong thing," she added.

    She added that the US does not wish to engage in war with Pyongyang and that the North has not “yet passed the point of no return."

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    "If it agrees to stop its nuclear program, it can reclaim its future. If it proves it can live in peace, the world will live in peace with it," she added after the new measures were adopted.

    Japan's UN mission referred to the latest resolution "an urgent call for North Korea to change its behavior."

    The French UN mission referred to the new set of sanctions as an "antidote [which will] pave the way for a political solution" to the Korean peninsula crisis.

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    PressTV-UN to vote on ‘watered-down’ resolution on N Korea
    The Security Council is set to vote on a revised resolution drafted by the US to tighten sanctions against North Korea.

    The initial draft had proposed a “progressive” oil embargo on Pyongyang, and called for a travel ban and asset freeze against Kim, along with four other North Korean officials, as well as restrictions on the country’s exports of textiles and the hiring of its laborers abroad.

    The new version has dropped the call for blacklisting Kim, and only lists one of the four officials. The oil embargo was also excluded from the final text, which instead seeks a ban on condensates and natural gas liquids.

    It also keeps the proposal for restrictive measures against textile exports, which were North Korea’s second-biggest export after coal and other minerals in 2016.

    The draft resolution also no longer urges an asset freeze on the military-controlled national airline Air Koryo.

    Russia and China have repeatedly called for a dialogue between North Korea, on the one side, and the US allies, on the other side, whereby Pyongyang would suspend its weapons program in return for an end to joint military drills by the US and South Korea.

    North Korea has been slapped with nine rounds of UNSC sanctions since it conducted its first nuclear test in 2006. The US and the European Union have also imposed wide-ranging bans to isolate North Korea.

    Tensions on the Korean Peninsula have heightened over Pyongyang’s nuclear tests, the most recent of which on September 3. Last week, the South Korean military said the North was preparing for another missile launch, possibly an ICBM test.

    Before the new resolution was adopted, North Korea said that Washington will pay for leading the council over sanctions.

    "In case the US eventually does rig up the illegal and unlawful 'resolution' on harsher sanctions, the DPRK [Democratic People's Republic of Korea] shall make absolutely sure that the US pays due price," said a statement published by the North’s official KCNA news agency. "The world will witness how the DPRK tames the US gangsters by taking a series of actions tougher than they have ever envisaged," it added.

    http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/09/11/534837/un-north-korea-unsc-sanctions
     
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    Trump tells UN that US is prepared to ‘totally destroy’ North Korea

    President Trump in a fiery speech to the United Nations on Tuesday vowed to “destroy” North Korea if it continues to threaten the US and its allies with nuclear weapons.

    “The United States has great strength and patience, but if it is forced to defend itself or its allies, we will have no choice but to totally destroy North Korea,” he said in his address to the UN General Assembly, prompting gasps from the assembled world leaders.

    “Rocket Man is on a suicide mission for himself and his regime,” Trump said, employing a term he first used for North Korean President Kim Jong Un in a tweet Sunday. “No one has shown more contempt for their own people than the depraved regime in North Korea.”

    The country’s UN delegation had a front-row seat for Trump’s remarks, but left before he took the lectern, leaving three seats empty.

    In his first formal speech to the 193-member organization, he rallied its members to stand together against “those who threaten us with chaos and turmoil and terror.”

    “If the righteous men do not confront the wicked few, then evil will triumph,” he said in the speech that was supposed to be limited to 15 minutes by UN rules but went on for 45 minutes.

    “No nation on Earth has an interest in seeing this band of criminals arm itself with nuclear weapons and missiles,” Trump declared.

    He also thanked members of the UN Security Council, which has imposed several rounds of sanctions against North Korea in retaliation for detonating a nuclear device and launching intercontinental ballistic missiles.

    But he also chided those countries that still do business with Pyongyang.

    “It is an outrage that some nations would not only trade with North Korea, but arm it,” he said.

    http://nypost.com/2017/09/19/trump-tells-un-that-us-is-prepared-to-totally-destroy-north-korea/
     
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    North Korea may consider H-bomb test in Pacific, Kim calls Trump 'deranged'

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    SEOUL/NEW YORK (Reuters) - North Korea said on Friday it might test a hydrogen bomb over the Pacific Ocean after President Donald Trump vowed to destroy the reclusive country, with leader Kim Jong Un promising to make Trump pay dearly for his threats.

    Kim did not specify what action he would take against the United States or Trump, whom he called a “mentally deranged U.S. dotard” in the latest bout of insults the two leaders have traded.

    South Korea said it was the first direct statement of its kind by a North Korean leader. However, Kim’s foreign minister, Ri Yong Ho, said North Korea could consider a hydrogen bomb test of an unprecedented scale over the Pacific Ocean. Ri told reporters in New York he did not know Kim’s exact thoughts.

    Japan, the only country ever to suffer an atomic attack, described the threat as “totally unacceptable”.

    The U.S. president, who has not shrunk from fighting fire with fire in his rhetoric on North Korea, sent another message Friday on Twitter.

    “Kim Jong Un of North Korea, who is obviously a madman who doesn’t mind starving or killing his people, will be tested like never before,” Trump said, a day after announcing additional sanctions on Pyongyang.

    Trump said in his first address to the United Nations on Tuesday he would “totally destroy” North Korea, a country of 26 million people, if it threatened the United States and its allies, and called Kim a “rocket man” on a suicide mission.

    Kim said the North would consider the “highest level of hard-line countermeasure in history” against the United States and that Trump’s comments had confirmed his own nuclear program was “the correct path”.

    Pyongyang conducted its sixth and largest nuclear test on Sept. 3 and has launched dozens of missiles this year as it accelerates a program aimed at enabling it to target the United States with a nuclear-tipped missile.

    “I will surely and definitely tame the mentally deranged U.S. dotard with fire,” Kim said in the statement on the KCNA state news agency.

    Asked about the North Korean hydrogen bomb threat, U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson told ABC that diplomatic efforts will continue but all military options were still on the table.

    “We are quite challenged” with the escalating rhetoric, he said, but hoped increased sanctions and “voices from every corner of the world” would help lead Kim to talks.

    A senior U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said that the United States is taking Kim’s threat seriously. Such a test would be a “game-changer” if North Korea actually did it, the official said.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...acific-kim-calls-trump-deranged-idUSKCN1BW1ZZ
     
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    North Korea's constitution was written by Stalin himself. It has no place in the modern world.
     
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    https://www.yahoo.com/news/britain-apos-prepares-war-north-031737564.html

    Britain 'draws up battle plan for war with North Korea'
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    Britain is reportedly preparing for the possibility of war breaking out with North Korea as concerns rise that another provocative missile test could trigger a military response by the US.

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    North Korea is being closely watched amid fears it could launch another long-range missile test on Tuesday to mark the anniversary of the founding of its ruling party.



    "We have plenty of ships to send… the Type-45 destroyers, the Type-23 frigates. Britain’s new aircraft carrier could be pressed into service early if things turn south," a senior Whitehall source told the newspaper.

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    The possible move to deploy it ahead of schedule drew comparisons with the start of the Falklands War.

    "In the Falklands we had to react to an event and HMS Illustrious was accelerated to respond," a Navy source told the Mail.

    "This was a reaction to protect British territory, however. In this case [North Korea], the UK would be part of a united global coalition. We would see what support we could give."

    The US president hinted on Saturday at taking military action against Kim Jong-un's regime, saying "only one thing will work" in dealing with the country.


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    The president has previously said the United States would "totally destroy" North Korea if necessary to protect itself and its allies from Pyongyang's nuclear threats.



    “The US is fully entitled to defend its own territory, to defend its bases and to look after its people, but this involves us, London is closer to North Korea and its missiles than Los Angeles," he said.
     
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    https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-n-bans-four-ships-over-north-korea-184620645.html

    U.N. bans four ships over North Korea coal, U.S. delays four more
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    UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - The United Nations Security Council has banned four ships from ports globally for carrying coal from North Korea, including one vessel that also had ammunition, but the United States postponed a bid to blacklist four others pending further investigation.

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    The vessels are the first to be designated under stepped-up sanctions imposed on North Korea by the 15-member council in August and September over Pyongyang's sixth and largest nuclear test and two long-range ballistic missile launches.

    The Security Council North Korea sanctions committee, which operates by consensus, agreed at the request of the United States, to blacklist the ships on Oct. 3 for "transporting prohibited items from the DPRK" (North Korea), according to documents seen by Reuters on Tuesday.

    A U.N. diplomat, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the four blacklisted ships and the four vessels still being investigated had been linked to illicit trade in North Korean coal. In November last year, the Security Council capped North Korean coal exports and then in August imposed a complete ban.

    The 193 U.N. member states are now required to prohibit port entry to the Comoros-flagged Petrel 8, St. Kitts and Nevis-flagged Hao Fan 6, North Korean-flagged Tong San 2 and Cambodia-flagged Jie Shun. Entry is only allowed in case of emergency or if the vessel is returning to its home port.

    The Jie Shun was intercepted by Egypt on Aug. 11, 2016, carrying 30,000 rocket propelled grenades in wooden crates concealed under about 2,300 tonnes of iron ore, according to U.N. sanctions monitors.

    It was "the largest interdicted ammunition consignment in the history of sanctions against the Democratic People's Republic of Korea," the independent sanctions monitors told the Security Council in their annual report in February.

    The ship had left the North Korean port of Haeju on July 23, 2016, and was interdicted in Egyptian territorial waters south of the Suez Canal, the experts said.

    North Korea is under a U.N. arms embargo and the Security Council has banned trade in exports such as coal, textiles, seafood, iron and other minerals to choke funding for Pyongyang's missile and nuclear programs.

    In an Oct. 3 note to the Security Council's North Korea sanctions committee, seen by Reuters, the United States said it was withdrawing four ships it had proposed for listing - the South Korean-flagged Xin Shen Hai, the Palau-flagged East Glory 7, the Panama-flagged Kai Xiang and Cheng Hong.

    "These four ships require further study with key parties and we will revert to the committee once that process is completed," the U.S. mission to the United Nations wrote.

    A ninth ship, the Fiji-flagged Toyo Maru, had been proposed for listing in an annex to the initial U.S. draft of a resolution adopted by the Security Council on Sept. 11. It was not clear if the United States still planned to put the ship forward for designation.
     
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    North Korea, nuclear proliferation and the AQ Khan network

    North Korea's frequent threats to the US and Kim Jong-un's war of words with Donald Trump have been making headlines for quite some time now. Some view North Korea as a threat to global peace, especially Japan and South Korea. Japan and South Korea have left no stone unturned to approach the UN to impose sanctions on Pyongyang in hope that it may rein in Kim's ambitions. Whether maverick Kim will actually invite war or will just be content with chest thumping is something that remains to be seen.

    More that Pyongyang's missile capabilities, what is most worrying is the nuclear capability they have got. North's Hydrogen bomb testing in September has left even the most powerful nation in the world - the US- worried. What is more worrying is that Pyongyang's claim that they have developed a nuclear device that can be launched on a missile of intermediate or intercontinental range.

    North Korea's nuclear program: Although the efforts to develop nuclear technology by North Korea by began in the 1950s, the program got a major boost only after North Korea and the USSR signed a nuclear cooperation agreement in 1959. In 1962, Soviet Union helped North Korea set up its first nuclear research facility - Yongbyon Nuclear Scientific Research Center. The Soviets even helped North Korea set up its first nuclear reactor in 1964. The reactor was used to produce radioactive isotopes for medicinal, industrial and research purposes. But in the years that followed, the country began to explore weapons capabilities, summoning its best scientists home from different parts of the world. In the '70s and '80s, North Korea set about acquiring sensitive nuclear technologies from Europe. Then, the efforts were focused on Plutonium separation plant. N Korea also sent its scientists to different countries to learn more about the nuclear technology and slowly North Korea moved away from plutonium-based nuclear weapons to uranium-based ones. North Korea conducted its first nuclear test on October 9, 2006, at Punggye-ri Test Site. The yield of the first test was said to be between 0.7 - 2 KT. Then in 2009, 2013 and 2016 (two tests), North Korea conducted more nuclear test. The sixth and last till date test came on September 3, 2017, which North Korea claimed was a Hydrogen Bomb. South Korean Government's initial yield estimate is 100 kt, and it detected a 5.7 magnitude earthquake. Tremors caused were at least 10 times as powerful as the last time Pyongyang exploded an atomic bomb a year ago.

    North Korea, Pakistan and the AQ Khan network: North Korea and Pakistan began to share missile expertise in 1992. In 1993, December, former Pakistan PM Benazir Bhutto initiated a deal with North Korea for Nodong missiles. Pakistan, at that time, was also worried about India's rapid advances in missile technology. Father of Pakistan's nuclear bomb Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan then stepped in to provide Pakistan with an alternative nuclear weapons delivery option by obtaining intermediate-range liquid-fuel ballistic missiles from North Korea. In November 1995, North Korea and Pakistan apparently struck a deal for 12-25, Nodong missiles, and at least one transporter erector launcher or mobile erector launcher, 44 the delivery of which reportedly began in 1996-97. It is widely assumed that the provision of centrifuge technology was part of the deal and was given to North Korea in exchange for the Nodong missiles, according to a book "A.Q. Khan and onward proliferation from Pakistan". AQ Khan is also said to have helped Iran in developing nuclear weapons technology. AQ Khan's nuclear network came to light when American intelligence operatives about five giant cargo containers full of specialized centrifuge parts being loaded into one of the nondescript vessels that ply the Straits of Malacca. The shipment was later seized near Suez Canal. That seizure led to the unravelling of a trading network that sent bomb-making designs and equipment to at least three countries -- Iran, North Korea and Libya.
     
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    https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-must-invade-north-korea-091003273.html

    U.S. Must Invade North Korea to Wipe out Kim Jong Un's Nuclear Weapons, Military Leaders Say
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    A ground invasion by the U.S. military is the only way to eliminate North Korea's nuclear arsenal, according to the Joint Chiefs of Staff.


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    "We’re just trying to get the administration to explain to the American people what a war in North Korea would look like," Lieu said. "People need to understand if there is military conflict in North Korea we would be going to war against a nuclear power."

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    Newsweek. "The only way to 'locate and destroy -- with complete certainty -- all components of North Korea's nuclear weapons programs' is through a ground invasion," said the response, written by Rear Adm. Mike Dumont." data-reactid="15" style="margin-bottom: 1em;">Mattis issued his response via the Office of the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, which was sent to Lieu on October 27 and obtained by Newsweek. "The only way to 'locate and destroy -- with complete certainty -- all components of North Korea's nuclear weapons programs' is through a ground invasion," said the response, written by Rear Adm. Mike Dumont.

    This is the first time the U.S. military has made this assertion, according to Lieu, who's concerned too many are under the false impression the U.S. could easily neutralize North Korea's nuclear arsenal via a military strike such as the one Trump ordered against the Assad regime in Syria back in April.
     

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