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Discussion in 'The Big Adda' started by PARIKRAMA, Oct 31, 2016.

  1. PARIKRAMA

    PARIKRAMA Captain IDF NewBie

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    Credit to @Agent_47 for this idea

    This place is for all news , opinions, main stream media as well as any other discussion where we might have personal opinions on MSM matters..

    You can mock here, use satire, make fun, and most importantly feel free to express opinions without the issue of moderation (of course to the limit of forum rules)

    Feel free to use this thread for all such things..
     
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    https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/india/2016-11-01/indias-strategic-win

    Our beloved Christine Fair has a new "buy our F-16 please" article. This is her second. We can safely assume her as the brand ambassador of LM's cause.

    As expected she started with stating the obvious disadvantage :hmm: then showing the 'promised land' of "India exporting F-16!".:dude:

    Clever again ! She simply stated next few arguments against F-16 without explaining how its wrong.:****:

    Oh Please, pakistan have block 52 for god sake. airframe and munition difference is close to nill. avionics, sensors are improved but how much it matter ? considering IAF's all future acquisition will have comparable avionics/sensors. Even our LCA is equipped with AESA radars. Don't get me started on Rafale or FGFA.

    First part is true.Washington coming forward to India like this is a good sign. But can you deny its aged or production line is closing ? Is there any assurance for export orders?

    :blah::blah: When you don't know things technical write BS.
    We don't even know what IAF want. Some says its light weight fighter (Which F-16 is not), some says medium single engine. For what role ? How does this requirement suddenly come up?

    Export to where ? Possible export numbers are minuscule compared to what india wants. Not a good sales pitch.

    Countries like Turkey already have MRO facilities and they are doing it in a global scale. In fact Pakistani F-16 are upgraded by them. She used the term "leadership position" for the same reason. These spears or overhaul orders will be given on competition basis which degrades the arguments further. All of the west and 'NATO allies' are going for F-35. With its planned production rates this market share will dip below half in no time.

    Indian aero space industry already have all these with local co production and upgrade of dozens of fighter aircrafts from east and west.

    Chinese aviation industry and "technology transfer" lol :biggthumpup: more like "copy cat transfer"
    Ever heard of Marut,LCA ? Ma'am

    A cleaver article without countering arguments instant presenting the forward and making a case for "global supply chain " and "industrial transformation". We made a good enough 4 generation fighter from scratch. We locally produce 200+ Su-30 MKI fighters, 100+ Jaugers and upgraded Mirage,Mig 29,MIg 21,Mig 27 in recent times (Infact we spend additional for 'make in india' in all these cases). We are part of the Su-30 global supply chain and we will be of Rafale,PAKFA in coming years. We don't need industrial transformation because we already have all basics we need for gradual maturity. What indian aero space industry need is a clear direction not another billion dollar imported fighter. Bulk order of LCA and full commitment to AMCA project are obvious steps in the right direction.

    @PARIKRAMA @Abingdonboy @Picdelamirand-oil @Picard @vstol jockey @Robinhood Pandey @Hellfire
     
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  5. Levina

    Levina Guest

    May be you can use this space.
     
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    Kalmuahlaunda Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    @Levina

    Please put it in appropriate section ... and @Kalmuahlaunda you can actually add on to this great post with satire on all politicians which you deem fit!
     
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    I have merged the thread with this one.
    Just the right place for satire. :)
     
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