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The real reason we gained Independence??

Discussion in 'National Politics' started by arun.id, May 10, 2013.

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  1. arun.id

    arun.id Lieutenant SENIOR MEMBER

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    Also please check who was the best ally of pakistan till now. It was America. America is the country which always gives fighter jets, etc to them. the recent change is only coz pakistan is like a rouge state now. And the frequent aids.
     
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  2. INDIAN NATIONALIST

    INDIAN NATIONALIST Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    I'm not sure how much I agree with this. Yes their armed forces were devastated but the British relied primary on Indian soliders against Indians. They initially conquered India by using Indians divided against themselves; buying off kings and warlords and using their armies against one another.

    India and the UK both rank relatively high in military spending. There's no rational way for any nation to hold on to a colony the size of India. Otherwise at some point the colony's natural capacity for self-sustaining or defense will reach some degree of parity of the host nation at least because of sheer size of the economy. How can you hold on to an individual colony that is larger than the host?

    In fact, the nature of India's independence movement is evidence of this. Once Indians were united there was no necessity for combat to force out British because simply boycotting British goods and civil disobedience was enough to make the costs of colonization far greater than the benefit for the UK.
     
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  3. Rock n Rolla

    Rock n Rolla Lt. Colonel STAR MEMBER

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    Can you run a country when the military and police are not supporting you? No. There were mutinies against the British govt by British Indian Armed forces.

    The first major mutiny was carried on by the Royal Air force in January 1946, which started in Karachi and spread across the country.The Air Force mutiny was followed by the Royal Indian Navy mutiny (also called the Royal Indian Revolt or Bombay Mutiny) in which 78 out of a total of 88 ships were mutinied. It started with revolt of the Sailors of Royal Indian Navy on board ship and shore establishments at Bombay harbour on 18 February 1946. The action of the mutineers was supported by demonstrations, which included a one-day general strike in Bombay. The strike spread to other cities, and was supported by the Royal Indian Air Force and local police forces as well. The revolt lasted for a few days but it scared the British Government.
     
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    rcscwc Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    It was Germany which severely weakened the imperial powers, British, French, Belgium, Portugal etc. Not only India, Europeans had to vacate most of colonies in Africa, and nearly all in Asia.

    Second thing. INA showed that British could no longer depend on the loyalty of the Indian soldiers. INA failed militarily but succeeded on political front.
     
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    Averageamerican Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    One thing for sure, lot of you all are not the brightist bulbs on the planet.
     
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    rcscwc Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    What should we do to become bright bulbs? Please be explicit.
     
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  7. Rock n Rolla

    Rock n Rolla Lt. Colonel STAR MEMBER

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    One thing for sure, you are second in the race for being the most dimwitted person on IDF, sorry to disappoint you!!, gogo is leading right now, but I must say you're catching up real fast.
     
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    Marqueur Peaceful Silence ELITE MEMBER

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    How dare you insult a king of f*** ... Apologize immediately
     
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    omya Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    ^^^ dis is true......
    @aa :dude:
     
  10. INDIAN NATIONALIST

    INDIAN NATIONALIST Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    Feel free to enlighten us if you think you have something to contribute, right?
    Surely that's better than simply suggesting one is wrong.
     
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    rcscwc Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    AA is talking from his western POV, and typically does not think we have a right to an independent POV. Western view is that the allies were fighting to save democracy, Indian POV is that they were trying to save their own azzes.
     
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  12. smestarz

    smestarz Lt. Colonel REGISTERED

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    After the second world war, Great Britiain was decimated and its manpower was stretched and frankly weak.
    It was the American manpower that was mostly being used in Europe and in Asia Pacific (you can check the Normandy landings were mainly carried out by American, Canadian and british troops but the Americans being more numerous,
    Also the war in Pacific was mainly carried out by Americans. The British had action (mainly holding actions) in Indo-burma area and malaysia. The Japanese were losing their conquered islands.

    After the second world war, there were many Indian pilots as a matter of fact, most of the pilots in India were Indians and we had a lot of Squadrons, further the entire British navy that was to take part in Asia pacific theatre was anchored at Bombay and mostly having Indian sailors.

    It was around that time the British tried the soldiers of INA and the sailors mutinied, and frankly that time the situation was such that if Indians wanted, we could have taken the ships and just landed in Britain and there is nothing the British could do. But that time Gandhi requested the sailors and the Indian military personnel to give up arms. This was perhaps one of the frustrating moments for the Indian military personnel as now they had a chance to sail to Britain and dicates the terms in London. But Gandhi was manipulating the masses, and they felt that the support from the Indian population in general will be less. The British saw this moment of threat and they knew that they are no longer in position to rule India and this incident was just an alarm bell. And thus later it was agreed that India should be given Freedom but further to save their position from possible attack from India over much weaker Britain, they ensured that India was participated and hence the armed forces capability was divided and thus there was no immediate threat to Britain and in the meantime the British would be able to recover and rebuild the country and the military.
     
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  13. DSB

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    I totally agree.....one thing I must tell u that ...during WW2 britishers asked indian soilders to help them in war ...but indian soilders refused to take part as the they demanded for india's freedom which was rejected by britishers,congress and ghandhi only helped in spreading this issuein civiliens.
    he was a smart politician....a clever man.
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    .my grandfather fought in indio-china war...and what he define for jawaher lal neheru is.......he was a big BASTERED.

    :fighting1:
     
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    my eldest grandfather also fought in WW2 in Singapore but died!
     
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  15. RoYaN

    RoYaN Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    when you are an ocean apart instead on in your face things tend to go smoothly!!
     
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