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Time for India to have it's own Private Military Company?

Discussion in 'Indian Defence Industry' started by ColdPlay, Jul 6, 2011.

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  1. ColdPlay

    ColdPlay Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    I have always wondered why India doesn't have any PMC's like Blackwater.
    After all they are very useful in War time & insurgency situations.After India can use them to tackle Maoist menace,just like Blackwater was found to be very useful in Iraq.They are also important proxies.
    Don't you think GOI should give clearance to companies to set up PMC's.They can take guidance of Blackwater,Airscan etc.
     
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    GUNS-N- ROSES Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    private war corporations are strict no no. even in america questions are being raised abt firms like black water etc.

    wat wd police and CRPF do if we start employing private companies to fight wat r essentially state problems.
     
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  3. ColdPlay

    ColdPlay Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    But CRPF is not effective in tackling Maoist menace.Remember only after privatization did our economy recover properly.Before that PSU's were not able to do that.
     
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    GUNS-N- ROSES Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    so make it effective by giving them better arms and training.

    PMC are strict no no.
     
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    ColdPlay Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    But US,UK has allowed PMC's to function.
     
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    GUNS-N- ROSES Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    so u mean all steps taken by US and UK are good for us too. our society is different. it wd be blunder to implement such a law.
     
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    I am not asking it to be a copy of American Blackwater,their will be higher GOI control but PMC's can do their job much more effective as they are running a Business.
     
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    Private armies are based on retired army and special forces personal and their salaries are 3 times high as compared to regular army Jawans and officers.
    If you have money you can start your own PMC just get license from Government. :smile:
     
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    ColdPlay Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Well you need US$ 500 million to start a PMC.Even if you have the money GOI won't give permission.:angry:
     
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    Vritra Major ELITE MEMBER

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    Firstly, Black Water have a lot of blood on their hands.

    Secondly, PMCs aren't governed by loyalty to a nation. They're mercenaries, guns for hire: larger ones like Black Water have contractual obligations that they actually follow, given the scale of their operations, but smaller ones have been known to go rogue, switch sides in the middle of the battle, etc.

    Also, the US forces uses Black Water to enter certain zones and perform certain tasks in places like Iraq that they're restricted in: for the Maoist menace, the CRPF are undertrained and underequipped. Its not like they can't take action without it becoming an interest of sovereignty. They also happen to be morally aware. They're unable to deal with the 'threat' properly because they haven't been given neither the right amount of training nor the equipment.
     
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    ^ We can use PMC's to train them.
     
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    satya Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    no need for PMC
     
  13. GUNS-N- ROSES

    GUNS-N- ROSES Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    members should know that court has asked govt to explain use of Salwa judum, a organisation of tribals fighting naxals. the chhatisgarh govt had appointed several person from salwa judum as SPOs special police officers. now the court has asked explaination from chhatisgarh govt.

    cadres of salwa judum have been asked not to carry arms now. my question is wat happens if some of the cadres refuse to lay down arms and rebel against state? that is why private organistaion or armies are a bad idea.
     
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    Vritra Major ELITE MEMBER

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    First, you'd have to get the Indian government to pass a resolution allowing PMCs to form in India.

    Then the PMC would have to present prospects attractive enough for experienced ex-military men/women to actually take notice and join up.

    Then, the PMC would actually have to have enough money to buy the equipment to be able to work in environments that require large-scale deployment. Sort of like what Black Water do.

    Only then can you think of training the CRPF with them.

    You can't use Blackwater in this situation, the environment is one even they don't have experience in.
     
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    GUNS-N- ROSES Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    IA has several prestigious training institutes where even foreign armies train their soldiers. one example is CIJW (counter insurgency and jungle warfare school) where even US sends its soldiers for training.

    so u mean to say PMC will suddenly discover better techniques than our indian army. or u mean to say our armed forces and police training schools are less capable.

    remember, PMC will recruit staff from armed forces and police only. so wats the logic of using them to train our peronnel.
     
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