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Top 10 Countries With Highest Rape Crime 2016

Discussion in 'International Politics' started by The BrOkEn HeArT, Jan 22, 2017.

  1. The BrOkEn HeArT

    The BrOkEn HeArT FULL MEMBER

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    N we are losing our tourism industry bcz of this "Rape capital" tag. Why we should tolerate when some countries are trying to defame you just bcz they are fearing that you might be snatch there tourists if you portrays as safe for tourism.
    China rise hurt the most of western tourism. They don't want another china to hurt their industry. That's the fact.
     
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  2. The BrOkEn HeArT

    The BrOkEn HeArT FULL MEMBER

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    Your view - I don't care about "tag"
    My veiw- we don't deserve that tag.
    But we both accepts that problem is there.
    Cheers
     
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    My view. We have a problem.

    I don't care about external tags. Its not their women being raped by our men.

    I'll freely admit that a defence forum in a charged nationalist environment is the least favourable place to have a serious debate of this topic.

    Also the demographics of such fora preclude a meaningful discussion. Mostly young to very young men. Hardly any women.

    We have a group of 40 something doctors (our college batch group) discussing the same. Men and women. All parents. A closed group, encrypted, no one uninvited listening in.

    Very different milieu .... a very different think tank.

    Cheers, Doc
     
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  4. GSLV Mk III

    GSLV Mk III Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    I'd rather not study under a racist retard anyways.

    It's funny when on the one side the hyper nationalists talk about heritage and pride in oneself etc. and on the other are so bothered about what outsiders think of them or say about them.

    Pride comes from within. If it has to be bolstered from outside, it's just a condescending pat on the back. A sop.

    Is that really what this generation hankers for?

    If yes, it's guttingly depressing and disappointing.

    Cheers, Doc
     
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    Darth Marr Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Every country has "true dark sides", we are not special. I am unsure why everyone is so hellbent on pushing that narrative. Considering the entire narrative is built out of thin air and sensationalism while statistics speak of an entirely different things. You could replace India with any country in your post and it would still look valid. The other side of the gender is also not that innocent and it is something which is ignored..



    HC do not make these types of statements for no reason, its about time we stopped this self flagellation and looked at everything which is wrong with the country and not just through selective eyes.
     
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    I concur with you view, but lets not forget that the incident never generated any reaction from the 'liberal' western media & intelligentsia. Serves as an example of their double standards.

    And it's true that we are still an inferiority complex ridden society.
     
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  8. Golden_Rule

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    Agreed, we surely cannot varnish it. But, if some external entity is picking on India selectively, one need to see beyond the motive and compare where the rest of the world stands.

    At least in India, most rapes do get reported. Indian families and women are giving up the stigma of sexual assault and are coming forward with reporting it, be it from a remote village or a metro. But when you see the West, which is "perceived" as very developed and advanced and justice prone, it is the opposite. I have first hand knowledge where in the first week of freshmen entering college saw two 18 year old girls forced in a bathroom and raped by boys. And this happened at one of the top 50 university of US. This is just one single incidence happening in a group of say 50-100 students get-together on a weekend.. And the girls were definitely upset but then decided to ignore it by saying that who wants to go through the hassle of reporting to the authorities and then proving the other party guilty!!!! So, personal space indeed is intruded and both the parties - the aggressor and the victim alike, accept it as if nothing wrong has happened. Imagine the few million freshmen/women who join college every year. And this is just for the US.

    And pedophilia is another massive phenomena which is highly under-reported, or never reported due to the threat and fear of abandonment of the victim - the child. These leave behind life-long psychological scars which actually become a hurdle for such kids to trust anyone and develop healthy relationships, instead they in turn carry and develop the same psychopathic approach of their aggressors to future relationships of theirs.

    I would honestly say that India, like any other country in the world is a victim of this eulogizing of lust and porn.

    upload_2017-1-22_15-13-30.jpeg This was when I was growing up

    upload_2017-1-22_15-13-37.jpeg And now I live in a modern society
     
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  9. INDIAN NATIONALIST

    INDIAN NATIONALIST Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    This is an interesting topic, and it's hard to figure out what the rape statistics actually represent. Judging from them, rape is an order of magnitude less common in India than elsewhere in the world.

    But of course, in the Indian penal code, marital rape prosecuted under domestic violence law, with sexual violence being considered a separate matter for practical reasons. Does this skew statistics? And what about under-reporting due to social stigma or simply lack of resources or fear of reprisal or loss of livelihood due to female dependence upon male providers? Surely all of these factors must be much more prevalent in a developing society as India's. Do official statistics take these variables into account?

    I was able to find some statistics that should be fairly neutral however, large-scale household study data of women compiled by the UN:
    .http://www.endvawnow.org/uploads/browser/files/vaw_prevalence_matrix_15april_2011.pdf

    First thing that struck me is that rape is indeed a serious problem in India; but not particularly more common than elsewhere in the developing world. Indeed, many women in fully developed countries apparently report facing higher incidence of sexual violence than in India, I suppose this isn't terribly surprising; sexual violence is a serious problem everywhere, especially against women and children, not because men don't face sexual violence, but because women and children surely are more likely to be the dependent partner in some relationship, including those in which domestic sexual violence occurs. This in turn can surely lend to continued trauma as they tend to be more limited in their ability to seek help from an abusive relationship.
    The only confounding variable I can imagine in the above statistics is that girls' perception of what constitutes sexual violence might differ between cultures, and that might load on how they respond to the survey, although this is pure speculation because I don't know the particular nature of the surveys so I don't know if they teased apart those details in their results.

    Secondly, these results don't explain why India seems to be singled out frequently as particularly problematic as far as sexual violence goes.
    One obvious explanation is that we're easy to smear, because raw numbers of crime are indeed greater in a more populous sample, so perhaps it's easier to shock with our statistics.
    Another reason may be that since high-profile rape cases tend to make it onto national news media rather than merely state-level networks, the world is more likely to catch wind of a particularly disturbing and thus newsworthy incident in India than in other countries.

    On one hand, perhaps it is, in balance of things, great that rape is sensationalized by the medias that much more. The more we're ashamed of our problems, the less likely we are to ignore or underestimate them. Perhaps rather than Indian media over-sensationalizing rape in the country, we can take the perspective that foreign media doesn't draw enough attention to their own problems with sexual violence.

    However, the over-sensationalizing of rape might I think have a negative and unintended consequence, which is that thus far India's approach to the problem of sexual violence has been to limit the freedoms of girls. Girls are frequently told how to dress, where to travel, whom to travel with, what times to be outside. We address sexual violence as a security and law-enforcement issue while perhaps not paying enough attention to addressing the social / cultural dimensions of the problem.

    When we limit the autonomy of our females in our society, we make them dependent upon men. And this might in fact make them more susceptible to sexual abuse, considering from the statistics above, a great deal of the sexual violence encountered by Indian women is from intimate partners, which can possibly be extrapolated to personal relations in general. Addressing rape by decreasing female autonomy is more likely to place women in relationships with some power dynamic with a potentially abusive partner, which not only makes girls more vulnerable, but greatly reduces the efficacy of having measures like curfews and no-go-areas for women in the first place. They may not even be in a position to seek help from law enforcement.
     
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    Very nicely written. Kudos.

    An increasing number of women from my generation, mothers of teenage girls today, believe that it started with and in a way was given fuel by our generation.

    The leching. The groping in locals and buses and cinema halls. The passing of lewd comments in the market place or at bus stops and outside schools and colleges. The virtual abdication if personal freedoms and presence in public spaces.

    All in the name of not creating a scene. Of not bringing attention to oneself and family. Of adjusting and moving on. Accepting bad behaviour as an inevitable rather than an aberration.

    Good girls don't find themselves in such situations. Good girls don't scream and kick and bite. Good girls are expected to be sensible. Good girls accept that somehow it was their fault, they should not have done what they did, been where they were, worn what they wore, said what they said, been what they were. Good girls keep quiet, accept, cry alone, and move on.

    No expectations from the guys.

    All of this ingrained in us by our parents. And emboldening deviants with every successive generarion.

    As our population explodes. Migration increases. As does polarization and inward looking protectionist conservatism. And the law and order machinery is simply swamped and cannot keep up.

    I don't know how many 40+ guys there are out here, but it is a fact that there is an increasing rage and intolerance in our society. There is anarchy out there. No one is safe.

    Men are in fact exposed to a lot more mortal danger of physical violence outside the safe cocoons of our homes and offices and clubs. On the street. In the real world jungle out there.

    It's just that we do not get raped.

    This is a social problem. Not just a gender or sexual one.

    Cheers, Doc
     

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