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Top 10 Greatest Firearms in History

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  1. desiman

    desiman Lieutenant ELITE MEMBER

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    While I am not a gun owner, I still find it interesting that guns remain today the most common weapon used by military and civilians alike. During their long history, no one has come up with a suitable and as-popular alternative (such as a ray gun). This list looks at ten of the greatest firearms in history – and in the bonus section poses a question.


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    MG-42


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    “Hitler’s Buzzsaw,†invented in 1942, is infamous around the world as the weapon used at Omaha Beach to mow Americans down, but it was used in Russia to much more brutal effect. It fired 1,200 rounds of 8mm rifle ammunition per minute, which is sufficient to cut a man in half. It was air-cooled, and could melt its barrel if fired non-stop for 5 minutes.

    That’s why the Germans had several barrel at hand, and could change to a new one in only 60 seconds.


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    Glock Handgun


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    The Glock is the ultimate in modern reliability. You can pour sand down the barrel and it will shoot. It will shoot underwater. It is commonly used in 9mm, but is chambered for .40 Sig and .45 ACP among others. It is the standard law enforcement sidearm today and will continue to be for a long time. It almost never jams, is waterproof, mostly plastic.


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    .303 Lee-Enfield


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    The British equivalent of the German Mauser has one trump on it, a 10 round magazine, compared to 8. The British adopted it into the army in 1895 and used it exclusively until 1957. Soldiers were drilled until they could perform “the mad minute,†firing 30 rounds in 60 seconds and hitting 30 targets. This required reloading twice, and working the bolt back and forth in less than half a second.

    The rifle is accurate to 1,000 yards with open sights, and served in India (notoriously used against unarmed civilians), the Boer War, both World Wars, and many others.


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    .50 M2HB “Ma Deuce†BMG


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    The Browning Machine Gun is chambered for the most awe-inspiring shoulder-fired cartridge to date. It is designed with one thing in mind: power tends to corrupt; absolute power is kinda sweet. The 800 grain powder load has 14,895 foot-pounds of energy at the muzzle, which is enough to put a full metal jacketed round through three approaching vehicles. It has shot down helicopters with one round.

    Now imagine a belt-fed machine gun spewing a curtain of these rounds at you at 1,200 rounds per minute. Special Sabot rounds can go clean through tanks.


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    Smith and Wesson Model 29 .44 Magnum Revolver


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    Made famous by Dirty Harry in 1971, it was invented in 1955, and is still thought of as one of the most powerful handguns in the world, though it has been eclipsed by the .500 magnum, the Desert Eagle .50 AE, the .454 Casull and a few others.

    But what those other hand cannons lack is controlability and comparatively low cost. The .44 Magnum will still run you at least $800 new, which is a lot for a revolver, but very cheap compared to other magnums. You will not break your wrist shooting it, and yet it can drop Cape Buffaloes and Polar Bears. If I may be afforded one bad joke, it will make your day. Provided that you feel lucky. Punk.
     
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    desiman Lieutenant ELITE MEMBER

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    The Mauser Model 1893 Bolt Action Rifle


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    The bolt action had been kicking around since at least 1824, when Paul Mauser and Co. patented the 1893 version in 7mm. It has become the benchmark, on which all bolt action rifles are based, and against which all are compared. There are three primary bolt action systems: the Lee-Enfield, the Mauser, and the Mosin-Nagant.

    Of the three, the Mauser system is by far the most widespread, the most reliable, and the most battle-proven rifle mechanism the world has ever seen. The 1893 Mauser was the first, and original models still operate perfectly.


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    Colt Single Action Army Revolver


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    The icon of the Old West, the Colt .45 revolver was invented in 1873 and immediately caught on as extraordinarily accurate at close range, compared to the ball and cap conversions popular at the time. Its caliber was sufficient to flip a charging man backward off his feet. It can be used today to hunt deer and black bears. The larger powder loads can take down grizzly bears.

    It’s as famous as the gun of Wyatt Earp, among other Old West celebrities.


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    Henry Repeating Rifle


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    The granddaddy of all lever-action firearms. Benjamin Tyler Henry invented it in 1860, but neither the Union nor Confederacy wanted much to do with it, as they were afraid their soldiers would fire too quickly and waste ammunition. If I may use a cliched joke, “military intelligence.” Thank you.

    It fired a revolutionary, self-contained cartridge in .44 caliber, with 568 foot-pounds of stopping power, more than enough to put a man down. It held 16 rounds in a tube magazine, and a good man could fire 28 rounds per minute, so much better than 3 per minute with a muzzle-loading percussion cap musket, that if either side had adopted the rifle as standard for infantry, that side would certainly have won.


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    AK-47


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    Accurate enough to do the job out to about 400 yards, which is all anyone usually needs in a battle, the AK-47 is the ultimate pinnacle in rugged reliability. It will not break down under fire unless something catastrophic happens to it. You can drive a tank over it, throw it against a wall, submerge it in sand, water, mud, and every time it will go right on firing when you pull the trigger.

    I know a Vietnam veteran who was walking through triple canopy jungle one day in 1966, came across an abandoned AK-47, and couldn’t get the bolt to slide back. It was too corroded from the rain and weather. The wood was ******* off. But he put it butt first on the ground, stomped the action open, and it chambered a round, which he fired accurately at a tree 50 yards away. He stomped the action open again, and it chambered another round, which he fired accurately.


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    Colt 1911 .45 ACP


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    Every bit as rugged and reliable as the AK-47, this handgun was invented by John Browning for the Colt Company, in 1911, as a sidearm for American soldiers. It immediately proved itself a world beater in WWI, again in WWII, and has been a cornerstone of the American military ever since.

    But its most impressive feat has been the ease with which even untrained civilians can fire it accurately, keep it in working order, and defend themselves ably with it. 7 + 1 rounds of fat, man-stopping power perfect for close-range self-defense. Soldiers have dragged it through swamps in the Pacific Theater of WWII, with their fingers on the trigger, then whipped it out of the muck and fired all 8 rounds accurately.

    The only way to improve on it would be to make it cheaper. You’ll spend $1,000 on one.


    Question
    In the United States and many other countries, everyone has the right to bear arms. As a non-American my question is: is this a fundamental human right which should be extended to all people in the world? Should all Iraqi’s have the right to bear arms? If all Chinese people had the right, would they be living under an oppressive regime today or would they have risen up and put it down?

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  3. siegecrossbow

    siegecrossbow 2nd Lieutant ELITE MEMBER

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    No Brownbess?

    Gunownership is not going to solve social problems. Fully automatic weapons are not allowed in the United States any ways and I find it ludicrous for the people to overthrow the government with rifles and shotguns. The Second Ammendment is more of a tradition than any thing else.

    p.s. If you want to see the murder rate in China to go up the best way would be legalizing guns. The gangs are already bad enough with kitchen knives and bricks. We don't want to see any potential upgrades.
     
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    M16 is my favorite. Anyone knows whats the difference? :lol:
     
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    A Longer barrel and a fixed stock as compared to M4????
     
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    Difference is in the Terminal Ballistics behaviour - ie, the accuracy and penetrating power differs beyond a certain limit in both of them due to the barrel length.

    The M16 has better terminal ballistics behaviour because of its longer barrel (abt 15 cms) than the M4
     
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    gowthamraj Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    I love the great russian masterpiece ak-47


    Somebody saying russian tech is not reliable in war but this gun still stand reli today even after invention of 60 yearss
     
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    My favorite is the German MG-42. Nothing beats it ever. The sound is awesome, the recoil could shake your bones and the fire rate was mind boggling. Every MG-42 post in WW-II claimed 10s and sometimes 100s of lives. It was the most feared weapon in the WWII.

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    Why is the MP5 not here?
    It is the best SMG.
     
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    prototype Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    This is my personal favorite

    M32 Multiple Grenade Launcher aka The Six Pack Attack



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    halloweene Major MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Hmm i dont see why FAL should be in this list, nothing special about it. M4-A1 is very nice to handle, like a toy, but has big reliability issues ( thats why US asked Heckler and Koch to develop the HK 416, btw it has better balistic then M16, even with shoter gun due to more "spin (cant fing the world in english) of the bullet (using F5 ammo))). Glock is a vey reliable gun, but not as much as you said (personal experience, i still love it but i've seen it go out of action in desert while an old automatic from 1950 still worked). I dont understand why S&W .44 and Enfield are in the list, nothing really revolutiinary or mythical in them (apart from cinema?). Apart from that, all listed weapons did bring new capabilities to troops. I'd add the russian single man held machine gun (cant get the name sry) that forced nato countries to build some like FN Herstall Minimi, and FAMAS (although its now outdated) due to the first reversible right/left handed bull pup design.
     
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    How can you people forget the most iconic sniper rifle? :what:

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    The Dragunov was designed as a squad support weapon, since according to Soviet and Soviet-derived military doctrines the long-range engagement ability was lost to ordinary troops when submachine guns and assault rifles (which are optimized for close-range and medium-range, rapid-fire combat) were adopted.
     
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    halloweene Major MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    agree about dragunov, still thread is to be about groundbreaking weapons, dragunov an excellent one, then again nothing revolutionary
     
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