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Transport Aircrafts of IAF - C-130J, C-17 Globemaster, C295: Updates & Discussions

Discussion in 'Indian Air Force' started by hotstud69, May 1, 2010.

  1. bharathp

    bharathp Developers Guild Developers -IT and R&D

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    i hope they got a good insurance
     
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  2. Grevion

    Grevion Think Tank TROLL ELITE MEMBER

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    Another Super Hercules damaged in Ladakh, India now has only four
    Rajat Pandit | 28 mins ago

    • Six Super Hercules were inducted at the Hindon airbase
    • In 2004, the IAF had lost another C-130J in a crash near Gwalior
    • A high-level court of inquiry has been ordered into the mishap
    NEW DELHI: A C-130J 'Super Hercules' aircraft being flown by the commanding officer of the elite 'Veiled Vipers' squadron of IAF has been left badly-damaged after it crashed into a pole and other structures while taxing on the tarmac in the high-altitude Thoise airfield in Ladakh recently.

    Sources say the IAF is now conducting a high-level court of inquiry (CoI) into the unusual mishap after relieving the pilot, Group Captain Jasveen Singh Chatrath, of his command of the 77 Squadron (Veiled Vipers) based at Hindon airbase on the outskirts of New Delhi.

    The accident has currently left the IAF with only four of the six C-130J tactical airlifters, which are configured for `special operations', inducted from the US from February 2011 onwards. The IAF had earlier lost a C-130J during "a tactical low-level training sortie" after it crashed near Gwalior in March 2014, killing the five personnel on board.

    Group Captain Chatrath, along with his co-pilot and weapons systems operator, in turn, was on a night sortie on the C-130J to the military airfield at Thoise, which is the staging area for the Siachen Glacier-Saltoro Ridge region, when the accident took place on December 13.

    The IAF, which has kept the incident under wraps till now, refused to say anything on the matter. Sources, however, said the pilots apparently failed to keep the C-130J on the "centreline of the taxiway" after landing at the airfield at an altitude of over 10,000-feet.

    "They mistook another line to be the centreline (which provides obstacle clearance) at the airfield which has restricted space for manoeuvre. One of the wings and propeller of the aircraft then hit the pole and some other objects with great impact. Whether the centreline and other lines were marked properly and all other factors are being examined by the CoI," said a source.

    Group Captain Chatrath himself has a good reputation in the IAF for his professional competence, and has held important postings during his career, including project management of the AN-32 aircraft upgrade in Ukraine. "It's a freak accident, which has no bearing on his professional competence," said an officer.

    In all, India has ordered 13 C-130Js from the US for over $2.1 billion. While the first six planes were inducted at the Hindon airbase, the rest are earmarked for the second C-130J squadron to be based at Panagarh in West Bengal for the eastern front with China.

    In conjunction with 10 C-17 Globemaster-III gigantic aircraft, also acquired from the US for $ 4.1 billion, the C-130Js have provided strategic airlift and power-projection capabilities to India, which can now swiftly transport combat-ready troops and weapons to the border with China in times of conflict.

    In August 2013, for instance, a C-130J had for the first time landed at the rudimentary airstrip in Daulat Beg Oldi (eastern Ladakh) at an altitude of 16,614-feet, the highest such advanced landing ground in the world that overlooks the strategic Karakoram Pass and is just about 7-km from the Line of Actual Control with China. The rugged C-17s and C-130Js have also been extensively used for providing humanitarian aid and disaster relief in India as well as the extended neighborhood.

    http://m.timesofindia.com/india/ano...ia-now-has-only-four/articleshow/57298643.cms
     
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  3. PARIKRAMA

    PARIKRAMA Angel or Devil? Staff Member ADMINISTRATOR

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    According to @Ankit Kumar 001 the damage is limited and plane will be back into action in a short time post repairs... Rest everything is procedural..

    To be fair, the amount of work load on these birds and number of mission in different adverse and harsh conditions had literally means that we are pushing our birds way too much..

    If some folks can recall and as originally discussed with few since we did NT have MKI simulators we pushed them for almost like 250-300 flying hours per year whereas most AFs normally go for like 100-120-150 flying hours max..

    It's a similar case for all IAF birds.. we push them hard..Too hard.. may be we need 10-12 more C130s but instead of special forces edition we should opt for strip down version or C130XJ.. also need to see if the markings in runway was clear for visual identification..
     
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    GuardianRED Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    :facepalm:Truly Hate Articles LIKE THIS!!! ... A*Hole Rajat Pandit :santa-mooning

    Does THIS STUPID source confirm the airframe is a write off BEOFORE reporting the fleet is down to 4??? A*hole

    And Now its back to service , will he redact this article?
     
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  5. VCheng

    VCheng RIDER GEO STRATEGIC ANALYST

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    Hang on a minute. Did the plane hit a POLE or a POLL? :D
     
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  6. Inactive

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    Strange. IL-76 is less sophisticated and yet has been doing night landings for years there. No doubt THOISE is a very unforgiving and difficult airfield to land at in night. Out of hundreds of night sorties one odd incident like this is nothing to cry hoarse about. But C-130 .....:surrender:
     
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  7. Nilgiri

    Nilgiri Lieutenant GEO STRATEGIC ANALYST

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    Does this journalist have a twitter account?
     
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  8. Ankit Kumar 001

    Ankit Kumar 001 Major Technical Analyst

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    Sir 10000 feet, operating a C130J30, in a rough weather at night , while being over worked [yes ,whole December and January IAF has been indulged in airlifting trapped tourists from there and supplying fuel and ration to forward areas as the roads were blocked by avalanches] , accidents will happen.

    I am happy that the crew is safe and no one is hurt.

    Of course a proper investigation should happen , but I would not give much fault to the crew .
     
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  9. Flyboy!

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    were they in a striptease with pole dancers ? Jokes aside, this is utter negligence. What if they would have hit the engine, it would have been a lot worse.
     
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  10. Immanuel

    Immanuel 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    We need at least another 30-60 C-130Js with local assembly in India, with MTA in deep freeze, there is no other option.
     
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    GuardianRED Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Would say induction of the C295 to be fast track would be better - THis would then keep the C130Js specifically for SpecOps only
     
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  12. Immanuel

    Immanuel 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    C-295 is quite limited in what it can carry, it might be ideal for small SF raids with associated vehicles but to carry larger payloads the C-130J is the best way forward, with no more MTA, there will be a shortage of aircraft that can carry upto 18-20 tons.
     
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    Here now what the Menkey is saying



     
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    :facepalm: would he now redact his story?
     
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    GuardianRED Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Would rather use a Workhouse such as the C295 than a SpecOps Flight ... still 16 are on order so lets see
     

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