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Transport Aircrafts of IAF - C-130J, C-17 Globemaster, C295: Updates & Discussions

Discussion in 'Indian Air Force' started by hotstud69, May 1, 2010.

  1. Sancho

    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    https://www.stratpost.com/uncertainty-over-last-white-tail-c-17-sale-to-india/
     
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    Gessler Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    @Hellfire

    I'd like to know your views regarding the An-32 replacement. You have confidence in the MTA program?

    If that doesn't work out, what alternatives is IAF likely to look at in the ~20 ton category? Judging by the progress in this program so far, IAF should have already considered some other aircraft as a backup plan (have they?).

    What's the scope for something like a C-130XJ (basically, a somewhat cheaper 130J variant for local production, no need of the extended 130J-30) as an alternative for the MTA?
     
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    GuardianRED Captain FULL MEMBER

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    First COngrats on being the Mod!! :)

    Just a side note : isn't there a slow down on defence related news and acquisitions

    Im also guessing the File for the C295 is also stuck :facepalm:
     
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    Gessler Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    I was a Moderator for years, bro.

    Haven't heard any news regarding the C295 in a while.
     
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    GuardianRED Captain FULL MEMBER

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    Really??? Sorry slow slow day for me - need coffee - didn't notice the Mod Tags .... My Bad!
     
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  6. Sancho

    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    Yes no movement for years sadly. Single vendor situation, not enough orders to make a production line efficient, the same old issues.
     
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    Hellfire Devil's Advocate Staff Member MODERATOR

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    @Gessler

    There is nothing on MTA. IAF would like more C130s, and their performance is proving to be lucrative.

    There was talk of C295 but ... nothing came of it.

    @Sancho

    C295 was shelved due to "no funds" mantra given by UPA after Food Subsidy Bill.

    Since then, the funds have remained an issue even under present regime. The problem is that even present regime needs to win elections, the populism of UPA and prior to that, decades of 'socialism' has ensured that free sops will take time to go.

    Look at LPG subsidies. By taking out a Rs 10 lac mark and linking up PAN and AADHAR, the subsidies are being closed. People resent it by and large.

    In such a scenario, funds will get diverted to such frivolous acts thereby depreciating efforts elsewhere.

    The regime is trying to offset it with massive upgradation in infra projects.

    Lets hope in some more years, dividends will be reaped and not squandered
     
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    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    It never was shelved, but kept on being a topic of both governments, which are facing the same problem however, single vendor situation.
    The Avro replacement was aimed by Antony to get privat players into defence and he created the team up policy with foreign OEM's. But only Tata and Airbus replied to the tender. Arun Jaitly re-issued the same tender after the election, with the exception, that HAL was not allowed to participate and search for a partner, but the result was the same with just Tata and Airbus replying. Even another re-issuing under Parrikar didn't changed anything and we keep hearing TATA complaining about too low numbers for the production line to be viable (which is why additional orders for BSF were to be included this year according IAF officials), while the single vendor situation gives Airbus the upper hand in price negotiations.

    Btw, going for additional C130s as the MTA replacement would be a mistake, because the small cargo hold limits vehicle transports. We already have to use C17s with a fraction of it's payload capacity, for flights to carry payloads the C130 can't carry. MTA was based on the IL76 cargo hold and had solved that issue and if that's not an option anymore, we have to evaluate alternatives.
     
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    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    https://www.airrecognition.com/inde...oduce-il-276-airlifter-in-the-volga-area.html

    :frown:
     
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    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    https://theprint.in/2017/11/08/india-verge-losing-last-available-c-17-globemaster-red-tape/amp/
     
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    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    The fact that Russia didn't allowed us to select western engines was one reason, the IL112 was offered before, but it wasn't developed and available and the only response to the Avro tenders, came from Airbus and Tata.
     
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    US-2 would be a waste of resources but why C-2?
     

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