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Trump may have found his big ally to counterbalance China...and it's not Russia

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  1. lca-fan

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    Trump may have found his big ally to counterbalance China...and it's not Russia
    Seema Mody | @SeemaCNBC
    Friday, 27 Jan 2017 | 10:41 AM ET
    mutual admiration between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin, it may not be Russia that the U.S. president sees as America's critical new ally.

    In his first few days in office, Trump scheduled a phone call with Narendra Modi, making the prime minister of India one of the first leaders he spoke to following his inauguration.

    In its official statement Tuesday evening, the White House said that Trump and Modi "discussed opportunities to strengthen the partnership between the United States and India in broad areas such as the economy and defense."


    Sources close to the prime minster said the conversation was focused on defense. The White House did not respond to a CNBC request for further comment.

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    A tightening of relations with India is something that was already accelerating under Barack Obama, whose administration saw the world's biggest democracy as a counterbalance to China's rising power. Trump may take the relationship further.

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    Hindu Sena party president, Vishnu Gupta places a garland of flowers on a poster of US President-elect Donald Trump during an event in New Delhi on January 19, 2017.
    "Through successive administrations and strong congressional support, the United States has made tremendous investments to expand its relationship with India over the past several years," said Manpreet Anand, former U.S. deputy assistant secretary in the Bureau of South and Central Asian Affairs.

    "The Trump administration has an opportunity to double down on those efforts as the strategic interests of our two countries continue to align," Anand told CNBC.

    Foreign policy experts say Washington needs India to counter China's growing dominance in Asia — which Trump may be inadvertently encouraging — and to ensure the United States cements some type of influence in that part of the world.

    That task is all the more important now that Trump has withdrawn from the Trans-Pacific Partnership. That free trade bloc, which had the United States at its center and which excluded China, would have further buttressed U.S. leadership in Asia. With the TPP off the table, however, China immediately has begun to step in to fill the void.

    "Many U.S. strategic thinkers see the rise of India as a natural balancer to China as beneficial to the U.S.," said Sasha Riser-Kositsky, Asia analyst at consulting firm Eurasia Group. "Over roughly the last 10 years, U.S. policy has broadly followed this logic, helping strengthen ties with India and offering unprecedented cooperation in terms of civilian nuclear power and co-development and co-production of defense technologies while asking relatively little in exchange."

    'Security in the region of South and Central Asia'
    Trump's hostile rhetoric toward Muslims plays well with some members of India's Hindu majority. India has a large Muslim minority, and the country has suffered many terror attacks within its borders that New Delhi claims are supported by Muslim-majority Pakistan. Modi's political party, called the Bharatiya Janata Party, has its roots in Hindu nationalism.

    The White House also said on Tuesday that the two leaders of the largest democracies in the world discussed "security in the region of South and Central Asia."

    India rarely gets involved in conflicts that do not directly involve the country, especially given India's perpetual border disputes with Pakistan. At the same time, however, during Modi's visit to Washington, which is expected sometime the year, the Indian leader will likely want Trump to take a more aggressive position toward Pakistan and support New Delhi's counterterrorism efforts.

    Trump's rhetoric toward India — and Modi himself — has been consistently positive. Analysts say the U.S. president could be setting the table for a stronger relationship between Washington and New Delhi in the coming years and could ultimately elevate India's global profile, which has been a key objective for Modi. For years India has been living in the shadow of China as the second-best emerging market for investors.

    Trump's and Modi's phone conversation on Tuesday came one week ahead of the release of India's annual budget, in which New Delhi is expected to announce further fiscal spending.

    Despite economic headwinds and uncertainty around Trump's foreign policy, DoubleLine Capital's Jeffrey Gundlach told Barron's over the weekend that India is an attractive destination for investors. Bombay's Sensex stock index is trading about 6 percent below its all-time closing high.

    A possible area of conflict?
    One point of contention between Trump and Modi could be immigration. India is home to many companies that host technology work for U.S.-based companies — meaning that they employ Indians to do work previously done by American workers.

    Companies in India are able to provide highly skilled workers at a discount to what Americans get paid. Trump arguably has been more outspoken about protecting U.S. jobs than any other president in decades.

    "They also have a major item that needs to be resolved around IT outsourcing," said M.R. Rangaswami, a software executive and founder of Indiaspora, a U.S.-based community for people of Indian descent.

    "The president has stated that jobs be kept in the U.S., while India is the place most Fortune 500 companies have direct IT operations or outsourcing partners. Most H-1B visas" — supposedly temporary passes that give skilled foreign nationals the right to work in the United States — "are used for supplementing the U.S. IT workforce by bringing professionals from India," Rangaswami said.

    "This could become a messy issue that could cause tension."

    http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/27/donald-trump-wants-india-as-ally-to-counterbalance-china.html
     
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    Is India ready for this?
     
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    India will have to fight its own wars. if we look at India-Pakistan-China triangle, removing Pakistan will make India stronger than China and if Pakistan remains strong, China will have nothing to fear about India. The total size of PLA including its army, navy, air force and rocket forces is 2.2million. India has a system of Military forces and para-military forces to guard its borders. PLA does the job of guarding borders also like anyother para-military force of India. If we combine the strength of all para-military forces guarding borders of India to our regualar armed forces, the number grows to over 2.3 million.
    Once we take out Pakistan and create Balochistan and Pakhtunistan out of it by assimilating Sindh into India, China will have to face an army 2.3 million strong just on its southern borders and with all the problems it has with Japan, S Korea and Vietnam, PLA will find itself completely stretched to take on any nation if India is its direct adversary.
    I hope this sums up everything about it. India must finish off Pakistan and USA must help India do it if they want to control China and Russia. The route to maintain global domination for USA goes thru India to Tibet after Pakistan is fragmented and part of it becomes the protectorate of India and part of India.
     
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    Please not the Sindh assimilation plan with India. Open borders with people raised by a collusion of education system,media, govt pinning Indian people as the Great satan and fantasies of ghazwa e hind. Thats dumber than America accepting the Taliban as refugees.
    We should let this ancient land hoopla go. Land means nothing. The people in it are the land.

    Land is important in the sense, we should also make sure we are big enough to be a deadly threat to our enemies. And we already are.

    Rest, I am all for it if the tibetans want so.
     
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    My own thinking is same. And I think US is implementing the same. US will eliminate help India Pakistan in coming years (as it is Pakistan used to be its keep but now has switched to China so there's a reason too:azn:).
     
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    Land is as important as the people. Please remember that with Sindh as Indian territory, India will be entitled to waters of Indus as being an uprarian and down rarian nation which will help us irrigate whole of Rajasthan and deserts of Sindh turning them into fertile lands.
     
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    I dont think India wants war with pakistan and it is also not going to happen
     
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    India does not want war with Pakistan but if we want peace at borders and also internal security (as every terrorist activity is linked to Pakistan) we will have to fight with Pakistan to eliminate it, the sooner the better. Once balkanised into smaller states and cut off from Chinese borders expect peace at western borders and we can focus on Lizard (china) alone which will then never ever trouble India again and will come to negotiating table.
     
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    First of all because of war , Pakistan can get more weak and then jihadis will rule the pakistan .another thing if war break out , china will interfere as they invested billions of dollars in CPEC
     
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    We dont need Sindh .
    Nor we need any others land .If Pakistan pushes too far then balkanize it like we did 71 .But majority Includians including we South Indians wont allow assimilation of their land .It is a moth eaten land ,only creates issue here.
     
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    Your heart wants more. I am content. We can agree to disagree. But all I can ask you is to look at the empirical evidence available in India. Rather I can see the states of UP , MP , Bihar in the alluvial plains of India with perennial rivers having scarce development with population exploding. The Deccan plateau with seasonal rivers, scarce water, volcanic soil having way better development.
    Just consider that. People make the country. For an exploding population not even your vision of a Super fertile Rajasthan is going to be enough.

    Consider their education and mental makeup also. My vision is of sending the trouble makers out of the country rather than bring more in.

    Look at UK and Israel. minuscle but punch waaay above their weight with the right kind of population.
     

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