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Trump's Ignorant Call To Pakistan's Sharif May Send India An Unwelcome Message

Discussion in 'International Politics' started by vigour, Dec 1, 2016.

  1. Wolfpack

    Wolfpack Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    I now know you are a pakistani American,who usea the same vocabulary, like "TEJA" instead of "Tejas"
    They always harp on Tejas program and Arjun Tank of India.
    You have too much baggage left from East Pakistan,go cry somewhere else,this is not the place to cry.
     
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    He is the "TEJA" one instead of Tejas from PDF, Who keeps going on over Indians Arjun tank and acts as though Pakistan was innocent in 1971.You can see the ruse, So understand him. pakistani seldom make mistakes in writing, is it they cannot pronounce or they do it deliberately!
     
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    Trump team takes issue with Pakistani version of phone talk

    WASHINGTON: The Trump transition team has issued its own version of the Sharif-Trump telephone call, saying that Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and US president-elect Donald Trump did have a ‘productive conversation’ on Wednesday, but it lacked the “flowery language” included in the Pakistani version of this talk.

    “President-elect Trump and Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif spoke … had a productive conversation about how the United States and Pakistan will have a strong working relationship in the future,” said the Trump transition team in a rare readout of his conversation with a foreign leader.

    “President-elect Trump also noted that he is looking forward to a lasting and strong personal relationship with Prime Minister Sharif,” the statement added.

    An unidentified adviser to the Trump team said the Pakistani readout of the talk had “committed the president-elect to more than what he meant”.

    Other members of the Trump team, quoted in media, pointed out that the Pakistanis overplayed Mr Trump’s offer to play “a role” in resolving Pakistan’s disputes with India.

    See: Will President Trump be good or bad for Pakistan?

    The most critical comment on the Pakistani readout, however, came from a former White House press secretary, Ari Fleischer: “It’s entirely inappropriate for the Pakistani government to release what an American president-elect says in the course of a phone call.”

    Mr Fleischer, who was a member of former Republican president George Bush’s White House team and is close to the Trump transition team as well, noted that no government releases such readouts.

    “We would never release what a foreign leader said to (ex-president) George W. Bush. We would talk about what George W. Bush said. But to release what somebody else says, I am not the spokesperson for Pakistan or any other nation,” he told CNN.

    “So, for them to do it is an entire breach of diplomatic protocol and tradition. And if they had done that to me, I would be on the phone right now with their press secretary, chewing him out. The ambassador would be on the phone with their ambassador, chewing the ambassador out. And up and down the chain,” Mr Fleischer added.

    Media criticial

    The US media also criticised the Pakistani decision to release the readout, agreeing with Mr Fleischer that it was inappropriate.

    “Readouts of phone calls between world leaders are usually written safely in order to protect leaders from incidental backlash — like the one the Trump team put out,” CNN noted.

    “They’re dry and diplomatic statements summing up conversations using carefully chosen buzzwords.”

    The Washington Post called the Pakistani release “a surprisingly candid read” and noted that it “focuses almost entirely on Trump’s contribution to the conversation, and reproduces them in a voice that is unmistakably his (Mr Trump’s)”.

    The New York Times called it “a bizarre conversation”, noting that “while not exactly confirming the content, the Trump transition team did acknowledge the call”.

    In a commentary on the conversation, the Forbes magazine described Mr Trump’s comments as “cozy, expansive, even flattering,” and warned that “his bluster is more likely to be taken as the initial signal of his administration’s position” on the Pakistan-India dispute.

    “It matters that he uses words like ‘very good reputation’, ‘amazing work’, ‘visible in every way’, ‘the most intelligent’, ‘fantastic country’, ‘exceptional people’,” the magazine noted.

    “One of the main messages it sends is that he shows no awareness of the issues between the United States, Pakistan and India,” Forbes added.

    Published in Dawn, December 2nd, 2016
     
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    Don't bet on it.

    In another forum too, I was circumspect about Trump's presidency. His election was going to hurt leftist ecosystem and demoralize them in India too, but at the same time, he is dumb on policy matters, and his knowledge on foreign affairs is below zero. This cozying up to Pakistan was one risk; another majot risk is a two pronged attack on both H1Bs and outsourcing. If Trump clamp down on H1Bs for populism, fine. The companies which needed Indian workers would relocate to India. But if he clamp down on outsourcing too, one of our consistent revenue stream would be threatened.
     
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    I don't think he understands anything about carrots and sticks. To him, presidency is a reality show and he would run it like a reality show unless some seasoned republicans drill some sense into him.
     
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    If your leadership is good, no outcome could be bad.

    Let's suppose USA walks out on its East Asian allies, what is in it for us? On surface, it would seem like an unmitigated disaster. China would swallow up its small neighbours like Taiwan and Philippines, and push Japan and Vietnam into a corner, and its navy ,free from its need to defend against possible US invasion would start intruding into Indian ocean; but on the other hand, USA would also cease to be a player in East Asia. If we play our cards right, we could form a decent Asian alliance ,sans USA, and become a major player in international politics over long term at expense of USA.
     
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    Lol, this clip from Trump transition team! :D

     
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