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U.S. Deploys F-22 Fighter Jets to UAE: Officials

Discussion in 'The Americas' started by Manmohan Yadav, May 2, 2012.

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  1. USMC48th

    USMC48th FULL MEMBER

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    Worst part of my experience was looking a brainwashed kid in the eye holding an AK, then having to put him down. Nightmare. Nothing will prepare u for that. And god bless the ugly A-10, the thundering 30 cal was a music on our ears
     
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    Was you ever posted in Iraq or Afganistan??
     
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    Layman, that was a good break down of strategic war you posted, thank you sir
     
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    Early days of war...at Baghdad airport room to room against republican guards, mid years.....mostly Basra ......later days....republican guards in samara
     
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    Picard Lt. Colonel RESEARCHER

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    It isn't only leaders that have crippled US military. Weapons procurement and development processes are being done with no regards to cost effectiveness, USAF and USN have abandoned "fly before you buy" policy - F35s development still isn't finished, and it's already in production; F22 still asks for a fix after fix, increasing cost even more, despite the fact that official development is finished; F22 was selected based on results of flyoff between YF-22 ("the paint job shape F22", as it was - entirely appropriately - called) and YF-23; F35s prototypes were even more removed from the final product.

    I'd say that US should keep 187 F22s it already has, maybe produce some more, cancel F35 and buy some Eurofighter Typhoons to replace F15 and F16, replace F18 with Dassault Rafale (contracts should be similar to Indian MMRCA - buy some, and produce rest in the US) and start developing new fighters, which would be both good for air-to-air (which F35 isn't) and cost effective (which neither F35 or F22 are).

    It won't. Especially since USAF is trying - again - to get rid of the CAS mission entirely. AFAIK, only reason they didn't do it already is the fact that they'd be forced to give A10s to Army and maybe Marines, and USAF wants to be only branch of US military flying fixed-wing aircraft.

    And regarding SAMs and stealth fighters, these are data for Gulf and Kosovo wars:

    Fighter - war - sorties - confirmed losses - total losses - sorties per confirmed loss - sorties per loss
    F16 - GW1 - 13 340 - 3 - 7 - 4460 - 1900
    A10 - GW1, KW - 12 400 - 4 - 4 - 3100 - 3100
    F117 - GW1, KW - 2 600 - 2 - 2 - 1300 - 1300

    GW1 - Gulf War One
    GW2 - Gulf War Two
    KW - Kosovo War

    Meanwhile, SAMs had 0,36 effectiveness rate (842 SAMs fired, 3 aircraft hit; 2 of those were downed) in Kosovo War; which was about same effectiveness as in Vietnam. So I'd say there is good possibility that all S300, S400 scare is just to push Congress into spending more money for new stealth aircraft, while US hardware inventory is aging. F35 will never be able to replace F16 - it is too heavy, has too small wing, and is too expensive to both procure and maintain, and has no capability whatsoever in either AA combat or CAS.

    Meanwhile, everything seems to be moving towards sensors fusion, meaning it will be harder and harder for stealth aircraft to hide.

    Regarding US-China war, US Navy will be vulnerable to:
    a) ground-to-ship missiles
    b) conventional submarines
    c) mines
    d) fast attack craft, such as torpedo boats

    I doubt that China will try and match US platform for platform. But US should prepare itself for assymetric response.

    However, I don't think there will be a war between US and China. China is single largest owner of the US debt, while US is China's food basket - and cut off China's food supply, which US would be perfectly capable of doing, especially if EU and Russia join... you get the idea.
     
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    You are always welcome. And Hats off to the Marine’s who had pledged their lives, so that we can live peacefully.
     
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    tunguska Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    Great to have the member like you on this forum. Definately your experience will help us to learn more. Welcome to indian defence forum. Please share more light during ur tenure with US marine.
     
  8. USMC48th

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    Yes, Picard u are absolutely correct. Although its too late for eu platforms to find their way into American airforce. We are committed to the f35. I still think we can use it to great effect. But it needs the escort of enough f22 to remain useful. They will try to push the f35 to perform duties that it wasn't designed for, primarily a2a. Just like the hummer which was designed for peace keeping and post coflict operations was pushed as interconflict war machine which proved to be a metal coffin. So will the f35, it will find itself alone and becone a composite alloy coffin.
    I never planned on marines, I wanted to be a pilot with air force, but one thing led to another and the only flying I did was frim the back of a hercules over baghdad. Ducking behind a fax machine in a office in airport reaching for my flashbang. With my flashlight in my M4 off, night vision on, broke the window and right before I threw the flash bang i thought ti myself, why am I not flying that Hercules. But I'm greatful to havr made it inti such prestigous family if warriors. Honor.
     
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    Picard Lt. Colonel RESEARCHER

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    As long as US has enough F15s and F16s, F35 can be used even without restarting F22 production; but in such case, more F16s would be better. Maybe they'll try to zero-time some F16s and/or F15s, but I doubt it.

    And USAF unfortunately has a history of using aircraft for what they're not suited to do (B29 doing "close support" in Korea, promoting F111 as fighter, and so on). As Pierre Sprey said: "Problem are always the generals.". God knows why they are pushing F35; maybe they honestly beleive it can work - and maybe they've been bought by Military-Industrial complex.

    On note of F35 development:
    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/aXQ2lO3ieBA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    As long as US has enough F15s and F16s, F35 can be used even without restarting F22 production; but in such case, more F16s would be better. Maybe they'll try to zero-time some F16s and/or F15s, but I doubt it.

    And USAF unfortunately has a history of using aircraft for what they're not suited to do (B29 doing "close support" in Korea, promoting F111 as fighter, and so on). As Pierre Sprey said: "Problem are always the generals.". God knows why they are pushing F35; maybe they honestly beleive it can work - and maybe they've been bought by Military-Industrial complex.

    On note of F35 development:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXQ2lO3ieBA
     
  10. USMC48th

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    Picard......what flag is that? Slovakia, Croatia???
     
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    I must add this story. One time I almost got my ass kicked by a bunch of Indian men. One of my indian friends was getting married si he invited the entire marine squad to attend. Thus is when we were still marines before I transferred to force recon. Needless to say we showed up in our uniforms. I saw the prettiest woman there. You indians are lucky. Woman dressed in colorful garments and all soooo hot. Well, I got some attention from few of them and decided to flirt. Bad mistake. Lol, but seriously ill never miss another Indian wedding. Woman are just off the hook.
     
  12. Picard

    Picard Lt. Colonel RESEARCHER

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    I'm from Croatia.

    Slovakian flag is quite different from Croatian one.

    And to think there was idiot in some Communist newspapers saying that we should drop coat of arms from our flag because it is "not modern".
     
  13. USMC48th

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    Ya I need to brush up on my geography. So, how's life in croatia? What do you do for work? And how close is your culture to Czech republic? I have a friend from Czech she loves eastern Europe. Never had the chance to visit.
     
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    Picard Lt. Colonel RESEARCHER

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    Life in Croatia... going on as usual... I don't know why they talk about crises since Croatian economy is in more or less perpetual crisis for last few decades, and politicians are still busy, as one song says, "arguing whose father was Ustasha and whose Partisan". Panem et circenses, except 95% of the populace is living on the credit, and remaining 5% has villas and is busy making fools of everyone - themselves included - since they don't have anything smarter to do (caricaturing a bit, though. I hope.).

    As for other... I generally avoid answering most personal questions on Internet. Culture is quite wide area, so I'd like it you could be more specific, but this could help for the start:
    Culture of Croatia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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