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UK threatens to invoke unprecedented mechanism to deny India ICJ seat

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  1. GSLV Mk III

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    UK threatens to invoke unprecedented mechanism to deny India ICJ seat

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    • UK trying to to stall surge in support for India's candidate for the ICJ, Dalveer Bhandari
    • UK threatening to use its power as a permanent member of UNSC to end the process of voting
    • Bhandari enjoys overwhelming support in GA with near 2/3rd majority, well ahead of UK's Christopher Greenwood
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    Dalveer Bhandari (File photo)

    India and UK are headed for what might turn out to be the worst diplomatic showdown between the two nations in recent times. In a brazen attempt to stall the surge in support for India's candidate for the International Court of Justice (ICJ), Dalveer Bhandari, at the last round of voting at the UN General Assembly (UNGA), UK is threatening to use its power as the permanent member of the UN Security Council (UNSC) to end the process of voting.

    At an informal discussions of Security Council, the UK is learnt to have stated that it is considering stalling further voting at the UN after a single round of balloting on Monday.

    It has instead proposed an arcane mechanism of Joint Conference, comprising 3 members each from GA and SC, as a substitute to continued voting. What has angered India, which is actively working to thwart Britain's move, is that this mechanism has never been used earlier in the entire history of ICJ to break a deadlock in appointment of judges.

    This proposal that UK threatens to initiate in the SC, as support for its candidate Christopher Greenwood drops sharply at balloting in the GA, is attracting considerable criticism from across a broad spectrum of countries. As previous rounds of voting have shown, Bhandari enjoys overwhelming support of GA with near 2/3rd majority (121 countries favored him over Britain's candidate) but Greenwood has managed to negate it with a slender lead in the 15-member SC with help from the permanent members of the Council. A candidate needs majority in both GA and SC to win.

    There have been many such deadlocks in the past too in election of ICJ judges, most recently in 2014 and 2011, but these were always resolved by more rounds of voting. UK though is now trying to duck voting, saying that just one more vote on Monday is enough before forming a joint conference, an untried mechanism that may take weeks to set up and months to yield any result.

    A senior Indian official termed UK tactics to try and "steal the election outcome" as akin to those of the robber baron Robert Clive and added, tongue in cheek, that the New India was no Siraj ud Daulah, the last nawab of Bengal who was defeated by Clive.

    The Indian diplomatic offensive at the UN has succeeded in stringing together an impressive coalition of countries of Africa, Asia-Pacific and also Latin America. According to Indian officials, many former British colonies have joined India against their former colonial master.

    The election which started off as an effort to elect an individual judge to the ICJ, in fact, now has broader overtones as it has pitched a declining UK and a rising India in a high-voltage diplomatic battle.

    Many other GA members too have been taken aback by UK's threat to seek a joint conference as there exists an unequivocal legal opinion provided in the 1984 UN Juridical Yearbook that argues against resorting to that option. Para 21 of the Yearbook clearly says that should a deadlock occur, a joint conference should not be automatically resorted to. "It seems more practical that the electoral organs should proceed to further meeting," it says.
    Indian officials feel that UK's "undemocratic tactics" may impact Britain's standing in the Commonwealth, something that UK will need to factor in as it prepares to host the next Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting in London in 2018.

    In all previous cases of a deadlock, balloting took place in many more rounds than what has been completed this time. And on each such occasion, the candidate who was consistently leading in the GA was ultimately elected.
     
  2. Guynextdoor

    Guynextdoor Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    :lol::lol::lol: @BMD what a bunch of sissies you are. :LMAO::LMAO:
     
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  4. BMD

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    You can see their position. With the split from the EU coming up, they're not going to allow a seat to be taken by a country that still bears them ill-will from ages ago. And it seems like they're just playing by the rules.

    The reason the SC takes precedence over the GA is simply because the SC is full of developed reputable nations and nations selected by the GA, whereas the GA has turds like NK in it.
     
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    Lol one that allows kids to be raped is mocking us.
     
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    We don't though. It is illegal here, whereas in India it is perfectly legal to rape your wife within marriage.

    And again, the story is a misrepresentation, the SC always has precedence over the GA.
     
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    It's illegal only if you are poor . If you are rich or royals you can take any kid you want and rape them .

    The society which tolerate this shit cannot preach to otrs . It's called hypocrisy or in your case desperation.

    No matter what you bring the truth is simple British is worst thing that happened to humanity . Even Nazi cannot do whT British did to humanity killing most humans in human history . Wipeout entire continents of people because they have different skin color or different cultures . It's your desperation that makes you to come here and beg us to like you .


    Truth is bitter . No self respecting Indian will like British . Only indians who like British are ultra lefties or beggars who would sell themselves for dollars.

    No matter howmany threads you create how much false history you spread truth is truth . You cannot change that .
     
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    This is a self-contradiction:

    Seems reasonable to me, if another vote doesn't resolve the issue, there's no point coming up with the same outcome over and over again.
     
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    No, it's illegal for all. There have been cover-ups in the past but they have come out and been investigated. In other countries, they are just covered up for ever. You don't need to cover-up rape in marriage in India, it's fully legal with the blessing of the state.

    Killing most humans in history? LOL. You mean where in two countries of similar size and population right next to each other, 29m died of famine in the colonial one, and 150m died of famine in the non-colonial one during the same time period.

    Wiped out entire continents? Which continents were those then? South Pole?

    Joined in last 12 months, check.
     
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    As our power and influence grews more clashes between britain and india are bound to happen...You can blame the british desperation for it....
     
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    Lol . Only British can bring tangent news like to feel superior . What does UN vote and rape in India have in common British neo colonial rambling s

    If USA which did not have equal rights till 1960s can sit in in UN . Or UK which butchered millions of human can sit UN India can India should sit UN


    12 months check ?

    Lol bring non sense news check
    Ignore the comments you cannot answers check
    Deny everything that fire father did check
    Bring rape into UN discussion check

    It's been 3000 years no change in typical Britishit attitude . Blame Muslims in front of Hindus . Point fingersat them . Or moral brigade of societal problem to fel superior .

    The rape capital of world needs not preach to us
     
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    Talk of desperation from a country where 1/6th of the population lives in hunger in the 21st century, whose neighbour's nominal GDP growth has outpaced theirs 5:1 since 1950.
     
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    Lol talk about people and their desperation to only bring poverty . You have only that argument ? Only China ?


    Lol let's talk about tiny island and their dumb ego . In last 70 years Germany was destroyed and divided ye t became de facto leader in EU . Meanwhile little islanders are so jealouswith their they left EU . Meanwhile it's Europeans neighbors are doing strong this tiny little island now wants to be lap dog of USAor China .
    Look yourself in the mirror. You country is biggest loser in last 70 years of group politics
     
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    Absolute fact, it contradicts itself.


    India still doesn't have equal rights even now, and their various ethnicities were still mass-murdering each other in the time of Martin Luther king. Go take the log out of your own eye first.

    You joined within the last 12 months, just like all the other arseholes on this forum. It's an observation I've been making.


    Which you did with this story that tries make a normal situation that occurred in 2014 and 2011 seem unusual with self-contradictions.

    Ignore comments I've already answered, where my answers have been glossed over without response. Why should I address further points when my points in response to the last comments weren't responded to?

    I don't deny anything. My parents were born in Ireland. The British Empire was cruel, but what it lacked in sympathy it often made up for several fold with superior organisation. There are many success stories for countries formed under the British empire but equally, there are some disasters, and the difference is more to do with the people than the empire.

    Should you have a seat on a court of justice if your government openly permits a form of rape?

    3,000 years huh? Oh wow, and excuses for Muslims? Show me a country where Muslims haven't caused problems. The only continent they haven't committed terrorism on is Antarctica, probably because the penguins confuse them.

    Not even close. You see, our media has made you think it's higher, so it doesn't just target India.
    http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Rape-rate

    And these are based on reported incidents, in many developing countries the reporting rate is far lower, especially ones where certain cases of rape are considered legal.
     
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    Country of similar size and population... and their Communist, which effectively means you've lost to someone who is handicapped.

    Germany had their debts written off post WWII.

    Yet we still have a GDP/Capita 21 times that of India.

    Lap dog of China? Please.
     
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