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Updates on IAF Sukhoi-30 aircraft goes missing in Assam

Discussion in 'Indian Air Force' started by Mercury, May 23, 2017.

  1. defc0n

    defc0n 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Really?? So there are chances of it being shot down by China?
     
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    shaktimaan Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    why IA is forcing PA to take some action...as i dont think IA will escalate this to war, so there is no point in provocating PA
     
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    defc0n 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Recent actions speak otherwise. IA wants escalation and is forcing PAK into a corner.
     
  4. lca-fan

    lca-fan Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    Fotos on TV
     
  5. A_poster

    A_poster Captain FULL MEMBER

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    This is probably biggest pile of bullshit I have read on this forum.
     
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    sangos Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Kutte ki poonch hain kabhi.....
     
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    A_poster Captain FULL MEMBER

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    Russian planes are not meant to fly a lot. If anyone use Russian planes like they are supposed to use western planes, there would be higher incidents of crashes.

    https://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htmurph/articles/20150701.aspx
     
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    Flyboy! Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Most failures (if not all) are not due to structural damage. Its either the FBW/Engine/navigation and electronics.
     
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    A_poster Captain FULL MEMBER

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    The damage builds up due to overuse. Russians philosophy is to keep higher proportion of their AF ready by cutting down on flying hours, thus they design their planes to fly upto 100hrs/year during peace time. IAF philosophy is to train longer, and thus it has more groundings, structural damage, and crashed than RuAF.

    Flying longer also increases probability of crash as failure of equipment is dictated by laws of probability.
     
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    sangos Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Fake news. Ex. In Syria the first 100 days of the operation, Russian jets carried out 5,600 combat sorties, with a daily average of 50-60. During the same period, the US Air Force carried out less than 3,500 sorties. (And we are not even considering the small size of Russian fleet nor the older generation of the jets versus US).
     
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    Russia was supporting a side explicitly thus it is natural for it to have more sorties than USAF which was just poking. Also, bombing FSA or IS is easier than even training as they do not have an Airforce or Airdefence.
     
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    Russians design their planes to operate from grass fields, highways, run down airstrips etc. I do not think overuse will cause any structural damage. It points to the engines (which have to be serviced at regular intervals) or faulty electronics and electrical systems.
     
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    I doubt mig29 or Su30mki can use highways ...
     
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    Fox Supreme Overlord FULL MEMBER

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    I'm not familiar with the area, but from what I've read on PDF it's fairly rough. Bad weather and rough terrain is hazardous for even for the most advanced or well maintained aircraft and best trained and experience crew. We lost a C-130 into a mountain in 2012 during that years Cold Response exercise in large part due to incremental weather and improper communication (the crew was highly experience with the commander having 6229 flight hours and the first officer 3286 flight hours).

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    As bad as this might sound I hope that's what happened. At least then the bodies of the crew could be returned to their families and buried with honors. Still, hoping for the best.
     
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    Abingdonboy Major Technical Analyst

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    No they don't, Russian a/c are amongst the most fragile, look at how paranoid they are about FOD and the measures they take to prevent it (anti-FOD structures on nose wheels and screens on air intakes).

    Which Russian fighters are designed to operate from highways or fields?

    If this was a(nother) loss due to a twin engine flame out there are going to be some serious repurcussions ie bye bye FGFA.
     

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