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Updates on IAF Sukhoi-30 aircraft goes missing in Assam

Discussion in 'Indian Air Force' started by Mercury, May 23, 2017.

  1. sangos

    sangos Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Then something/one knocked out the ACMI pod of that jet. Only one suspect?

    Update: Wreckage sighting report was false alarm.
     
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  2. Blue Marlin

    Blue Marlin 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    numbers dont matter malaysia abuse their mkm's and the weather is just as bad.

    and since you say i neglect the fact i dont mention numbers, look at algeria they have over 60 mka's which is based on your mki. they are the third largest operator behind russia and india.
    besides the size of fleet is not the matter, providing proper maintenance was conducted with a risk analysis of which parts are due/may be replaced and ordered in time are replaced. you dont fly in your jet for maintenance and then be told you have to wait an additional 3-4 months before the parts arrive.
    im not in the game of measuring which country crashed the most planes, do note russia developed the su-27 series and crashes are bound to happen. no plane is immune to crashes.
    maybe stretching the planes 250-300 hours is the problem. with such a huge fleet during peace time why stretch them? or are you in some secret war the world does not know about?
     
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    Schwifty 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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  4. NKVD

    NKVD Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    How do you know it's not properly maintained it giving extra 30-50 hours to operators isn't it

    Technical gliches are part of machines operating cycle no fighter is immune from it

    Are machine are not operating in every possible Diverse condition from deserts of Rajasthan to rainforest of Assam or in high altitude J&K

    You answered your question itself that crashes are bound to happen that is what whole argument is about

    Russians being OEM itself not able stop 35 crahes in 32 years

    IAF on the other hand with limited assistance and spares manage to operate su-30 for last 20 years or so
    With 8 crahes and add squadrons of MKI each year

    Final numbers are touch around 350. Taking that even if crash 8-12 more MKI in next 20 years of remaing life of MKI it will be great success
     
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  5. zebra7

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    Man, first bird hit is a serious cause for the plane damage and any FOD can cause explosion and serious damage not to the engine, but to the plane also, and not all fighter planes in India are twin engine.

    You brought serviceability rates into the discussion, but fails to add the word during peace time. Fighter planes like MKI's availability rate during peacetime above 50% is satisfactory.
    There was the reports for the typhoon availability rate of 35% in UK, does that means that the typhoon is a bad plane or UK airforce is not efficient. French Rafale availability rate is 50%. And your much loved PAF availability of F-16 is 50% only.

    From the adverse weather means variation of the temperature aka -30 degree of the Siachin to 50 degree of the thar desert. The area where the mki is missing is in the eastern part of the country, where it is covered with dense forest, and it also have the place, which recieve the highest rainfall in the whole world. IAF flies, because that's what they are trained for aka to serve the nations.

    As far as your examples of various su27 flanker variants are concerned, you again fail to see that all MKI's are Twin Seater Configuration -- Why so that they are airborne for extensive period of time, be it during training or during an active duty. MKI's pilots are trained for 10 hour of non stop flying.

    Second, you should look at the comment of the USAF comander statement after Cope India exercise, that the IAF's pilots are spending more time on the real plane with real experience, than the ground in simulators, and that should be studied.
     
  6. sangos

    sangos Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Okay the plane has been found. Fingers crossed for the pilots. Since our presstitutes have no clue to NE geography and last known location(not a single decent map) here goes:

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  7. Sancho

    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/af...ir-Force-pilots-declared-dead-week-crash.html

    RIP
     
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    RIP brothers.
     
  10. vstol jockey

    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Reveille for the new birth of these fine men.
     
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