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US student detained at Jagannath temple in Puri

Discussion in 'National Politics' started by Coltsfan, Dec 29, 2010.

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  1. RoYaN

    RoYaN Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Definitely.......
    What they do does not a make scene though........
     
  2. Guynextdoor

    Guynextdoor Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    lol!!! I guess you have grand delusions of hindu culture now domainting don't you? Fact is it is not relegion- it's CONVENTION. In a railway yard even muslims and hindus participate during vishwakarma puja and ISRO sends a model of it's rockets to tirupati not because they're so immersed in relegion but because it gives them a good feeling- a heightened sense of purpose and a symbolic feeling of brotherhood. Hell 99 percent of the people in these ceremonies won't understand a single word of what is being uttered- including Hindus.
     
  3. Guynextdoor

    Guynextdoor Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    The litmus test of demonstrating 'native pride' is not a complete submission to hindu tenets.
     
  4. Guynextdoor

    Guynextdoor Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    No clue what your saying

    Ahem...who gave you that idea?






    Caste system in other relegions is an extension of it's source in hinduism. If caste is eradicated in hinduism, it gets eradicated in over 80 per cent of popultion.
     
  5. rcscwc

    rcscwc Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    In xian culture too there is "ground breaking", but a bottle of wine is broken. For launching ships too they use a bottle of wine.

    Their influence on Indian culture is marginal, but Hindu culture affects them in India.

    In N. India, on 8th day of Navratras, Hindus hold a puja for Devi. Small girls are invited, their feet are washed, tika is applied to their foreheads, and food is offered, specially pudding. No non veg item. Even muslim girls too get invited, and mostly they come too. A muslim family lives as neighbours. Their small daughter is invited. On Ed the children came with bowl of sweet savainyans. We give them Ed gifts too, Edi as it is called. We send sweets on Diwali.


    But then no one is forcing you.
     
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  6. rcscwc

    rcscwc Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    Lols. Did Hindus force muslims, xians and Jews to adopt caste system? Small though their numbers were, even jews have caste system.
     
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  7. imborn2fly

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    hats off, Dr AS

    I m with Dr. AS. “Guest is God†that’s what our culture says. Then according to that why was Katie Leonard – a guest – considerately God pushed out of the temple. Temple is considered the house of Gods and guests are considered Gods then why was God driven out of thy own place. “Temple is the property of God†no individual has authority of treating God’s guests that way. “Those who have no one who would care have God†that’s what we articulate, then how can we push anyone out of his haven. “Priests are all devoted to God†so is our faith, then why was God [the guest] considered unholy and insulted by the priest.
     
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  8. rcscwc

    rcscwc Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    Uski aarti utaro. Paon dho kar piyo. But don't give sermons how Hindus must do things.

    If there is a dharma for the hosts, then there is a corresponding dharma for the guest too. Atithi ko Atithi dharma observe karna must hai.

    A guest must not force himself on a host.

    Not make unreasonable demands.

    Not try to take the host for granted.

    Not try to become the owner etc.

    Not criticize the hospitality.

    Accept what is OFFERED, nothing beyond that.

    Follow the rules of the host.

    Not be intrusive.

    Follow Basic Etiquette. What is acceptable in one culture may be an anathema to another.


    others too.

    Hmm. If a guest is deva for the host, then guest too should treat host as deva. An atithi has the rights granted by the host.
     
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    Osiris Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    Tytler's visit to Puri temple rocks State Assembly

    The State Assembly was rocked on Monday over the entry of AICC general secretary in-charge of State Congress affairs Jagdish Tytler into the Jagannath Temple at Puri questioning his religious identity.

    As the issue steamrolled into a controversy, Speaker Pradeep Amat, in a bid to resolve the issue, directed the Law Minister to make a statement in the House on the veracity of the allegation.

    Tytler, soon after being entrusted with the charge of the Odisha Congress affairs, was on a two-day visit to the State from March 16. During his stay, he had a darshan of the Lords in the Srimandir on March 16.

    The ruling BJD members, during the Zero Hour in the Assembly, raised the issue and called Tytler a non-Hindu and questioned his entry into the Jagannath Temple.

    They urged the Speaker to ask the Law Minister to make a statement as to how Tytler could enter the temple, which is only meant for Hindus.

    Puri MLA and former Speaker Maheswar Mohanty condemned Tytler’s entry. Despite being well aware of the tradition of the temple, the State Congress leaders had taken Tytler into the precincts of the shrine. Since there has been discontentment among the servitors for the “illegal and uncalled-forâ€￾ entry of Tytler, Mohanty sought to know who had given permission for his entry and what steps the Government and the temple administration had taken to deal with the proposed agitation among the servitors.

    Mohanty was supported by his BJD colleagues Pradeep Marathy, Samir Ranjan Das and Sanjay Dasburma.

    However, the Treasury Bench’s allegation was met with strong protest from the Opposition Congress. Leader of Opposition Bhupinder Singh, put a counter-question as to how they could come to the conclusion that Tytler is not a Hindu. He challenged the ruling party members to give proof of Tytller’s religious identity and prove that he is not a Hindu.

    The Pioneer :: Home : >> Tytlers visit to Puri temple rocks State Assembly

    bit old news (two months)
     
  10. Bad Wolf

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    this is about non hindu and every one know about rule that Non-hindu not aloud .This is the case of breaking rule and done by highly educated person .
    about lower caste hindu they are aloud . and do you think one who is not having faith in hindu religion how can he accept hindu god and did he is giving respect to god and what is the meaning of his visit and what if when any non believer do some damage or dishonor to any god (murty)
    so behave like gentlemen and follow the rule
    about money all donation goes to government that's why it is tax free even if it is not tax free nothing happen .
    and only hind who accept non hindu as chief of commity at siddhivinayak temple do you imagine what happen if any hindu become chief of commity at church or at any masjid .
     
  11. xXX-Nair:::Saab-XXx

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    This is shit I think Non Hindus should be allowed to Enter The Hindu temples if the Follow the rules like ...Not having non veg before entering the temple & having a bath before entering ...& the about the Donation part all Religious worship places are exempted from taxes on donation...


    & its the Government that handles most temples in India...Kerala government have setup a Ministery for it called Devasam Board...what ever is the earning of a temple goes to Government...while non of these money is spent on Improvement of the temple & no new temples are formed from this money...while the government Subsidies the Muslims visiting Mecca...they dont do any such privilege to Hindu devotes...This is Injustice done to us Hindus...


    Government have no rights to handle my Religious place if they do with mine then do it with Worship Places of all other religion...why should a Hindu always Pay Double price for being a Indian Citizen.........
     
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  12. Capt.Popeye

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    This kind of idiotic things happen all the time in temples all over India. I remember many years ago, in a famous South Indian temple; a colleague of mine (who happened to be a 'mona' Sardar) was stopped only because he had a beard. They thought that he was a Muslim!

    Now contrast that with entry norms into a Gurudwara; where no one is stopped from entering.

    Hinduism (or what is being practised) is still rife with anachronisms , notwithstanding so many efforts over the centuries to reform and clean-up.
     
  13. Bad Wolf

    Bad Wolf Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    this is not possible to fallow the rule for every one that's why banne is their
     
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  14. rcscwc

    rcscwc Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    They do not stop a Sikh. What they thought was a muslim, they stopped. Could have been cleared in a minute.

    Also contrast this with the following:

    Non muslims are not permitted entry into Mecca, what to talk of going near the kabaa.

    Sunnis do not permit shias and ahemdiya muslims in their mosques.

    Non muslims are asked to leave at namaz time.


    Euchrist is not given to non catholoics, what to talk of other non christians.

    Non jains, except Hindu, Buddhist, Sikh are not allowed inside Jain temples. No one is allowed to take leather items inside. Includes realistic looking synthetic leather. In addition, nearby eateries are not allowed to serve non veg food. Police enforces this ban.

    Has any muslim or xian organisation demanded that they should be permitted into Hindu temples?
     
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  15. Capt.Popeye

    Capt.Popeye Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    So?
    So Hinduism should end up trying to be a "carbon-copy" of other religions?
    The essence of Hinduism is tolerance, is'nt it?

    Any way this is all a pointless discussion, people will keep on doing what they imagine to be the ultimate truth. Only an extremely limited few achieve enlightenment.
     
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