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USA Frightens China With Super Destroyer

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  1. layman

    layman Aurignacian STAR MEMBER

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    USA Frightens China With Super Destroyer

    DDG-1000 Destroyer

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    The U.S. is building "the most advanced" warship in history - DDG-1000 destroyer of Zumwalt class that the Pentagon called a "super-stealth silver bullet." It will be able to move quietly along the coast, including in the shallows, hitting the targets of the enemy with electromagnetic rail guns, deceiving enemy radars.

    Americans plan to equip its fleet in the Asia-Pacific region with these ships "from sci-fi movies". It is to the shores of China frightening with the increase of its military where the Pentagon intends to relocate 60% of its ships in 2020 in the framework of the renewed military strategy.

    The new destroyers are being built in Maine, the first will be launched as early as 2014, the Associated Press reported. Visiting the local shipyard in April, the head of Naval Operations Adm. Jonathan Grinert praised the ships, saying that they would be the hope in the future. He listed the main advantages: "invisibility", an advanced sonar system, the incredible striking power and small crew size.
    Pentagon chief Leon Panetta, announcing at a regional security conference in Singapore the change to the U.S. military strategy, said that the new high-tech vessel will be a significant part of the U.S. Pacific grouping.

    The stealth destroyers could be useful in other regions, such as the Persian Gulf, but the military believe that they will be most beneficial in Asia. The new ships will be able to perform the mission both in the high seas and near the coast. In Asia there are a great number of island States, and China has a long coastline in the Pacific.


    Washington is worried that China is actively modernizing its fleet. In particular, the country is working on reliable aircraft carriers, as well as rockets and submarines, because of which the American vessels may be denied access to the strategic sea lanes near the Chinese territory. The United States believes that Beijing intends to prevent the Americans from interfering in the conflict over the disputed territory in the South China Sea or interaction with Taiwan that China considers its own.

    Now the U.S. has a great advantage at the high seas, but China by modernizing its fleet is getting an advantage in shallower, coastal waters. The new American stealth destroyers are designed to cope with this problem.

    The Chinese ridiculed the American novelty, and critics reminded the U.S. Pentagon of another "super-stealth" project.

    However, the Chinese military are not afraid of the science fiction "silver bullets". Officially they did not comment on the U.S. plans. But one of the admirals appeared on local television with an openly mocking commentary. He said that all the talk about the invincibility of the new destroyers is no more than the advertising hype, but really any "high tech" ship of the United States can be easily sunk by a simple fishing boat loaded with explosives.

    In the U.S., too, there are enough critics and skeptics, even though they are mostly afraid of the size of budget spending. The construction of one DDG-1000 costs about $3.1 billion - nearly twice the cost of the existing destroyers. If we add the costs of research and development, the price of one destroyer increases to seven billion dollars.

    Critics believe that this Pentagon's project is sucking money from the Treasury, while it would be better to spend it on the support of the regular navy. Many security experts have questioned whether the developers are too fixated on the semi-fantastic "technology of the future."

    They recall the story of the troubled fighter, fifth-generation stealth F-22 Raptor. It was touted as the most advanced fighter ever built, but, as recently revealed, it is almost dangerous to the pilots. But even earlier these fighters were dropped because of exorbitant price. A successor to the F-22 fighter, jet F-35, was the most expensive project in the history of the Pentagon.

    The Navy says that the cost of a destroyer will pay off. They are convinced that the technology incorporated in the new stealth vessel will meet the most current requirements, and in the next decade will be gradually introduced on other vessels.

    DDG-1000 destroyers and other stealth vessels of class Zumwalt have the body that leaves almost no trace, they are equipped with an electric motor and the most advanced sonar devices and missiles. These ships are longer and heavier than the current destroyers, but the automated systems installed on them will reduce the crew size by half. In addition, the enemy radar will "see" not a warship, but a boat a little bigger than a small fishing boat.

    The destroyers will be equipped with an electromagnetic rail gun that with the help of a magnetic field and electric current will run projectiles at speeds several times faster than the speed of sound.

    However, despite these fabulous features, the new destroyer was virtually "drowned" in Congress. Initially the Navy ordered 32 of these vessels, but the number was reduced to 24 and then to seven. Now only three ships are being built.

    USA Frightens China With Super Destroyer ~ ASIAN DEFENSE
     
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    layman Aurignacian STAR MEMBER

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    Electronic Rail Gun, seems like sci-fi, on serious note i think it would be one hell of a ship.
     
  3. Manmohan Yadav

    Manmohan Yadav Brigadier STAR MEMBER

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    Quality always comes at a cost
     
  4. Himanshu Pandey

    Himanshu Pandey Don't get mad, get even. STAR MEMBER

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    A waste of money... but it is their money so I don't care
     
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    Jungibaaz Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    I think it's worth the cost.
    But as ever with these matters, and in the past, the US' more expensive quality toys are matched by cheaper but tough Russian toys.

    It is still the case that high-tech, smart, elegant and sophisticated can be matched with shouting, grunting and numbers :lol:
     
  6. Picard

    Picard Lt. Colonel RESEARCHER

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    A) US spends billions on super-destroyer.

    B) China sinks super-destroyer with few thousand USD magnetic mine.

    That ship can be effective, in right conditions. But right conditions for it are:

    - open sea

    - permanent cover of other units, such as subs, torpedo boats, missile gunships and similar

    but these are conditions of Eastern Pacific, not waters of South-East Asia. And even then, submarines and aircraft would remain real danger. Sending it into coastal waters, where possible coastal cannon, missile and torpedo batteries, diesel and midget submarines, fast attack craft and land-based air power as well as minefields and similar come into play is idiocy.
     
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    Picard, good counter offensive. I think US should employ you as military advisor. Lolz, magnetic mine… kewl. Open seas, please read it, it can loiter around the coast and effective in shallow waters also. It is specifically designed for waters of south China sea. I think you didn’t read fully.

    Haha your frustration is understandable...
     
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    Picard Lt. Colonel RESEARCHER

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    There have been steps taken to improve its survivability in near-coast operations when compared to Arleigh Burke class, which still does not mean that 14 000-tonne destroyer is suitable for such missions.
     
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    layman Aurignacian STAR MEMBER

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    As Chinese ‘super brains’ admirals has mentioned he can sink any 'high tech’ ship of US by a fishing boat loaded with explosives… So you don’t need magnetic mines either… There you have the answer.
     
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    layman Aurignacian STAR MEMBER

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    No one knows for sure until it is out of the docks and performing in shallow waters. So only thing we can do is speculate. Well i can speculate they might be using Water Jet propulsion for shallow waters. But we don’t know anything for sure until it is commissioned. So rather than assertive statement it think a assumption statement would be right.
     
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    Picard Lt. Colonel RESEARCHER

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    My point is that it is too large to be suitable for near-shore operations.
     
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    layman Aurignacian STAR MEMBER

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    It is large and 14k tones. But if they say that is will be effective in shallow waters, then there must some sort of counter propulsion system been employed to prevent it from berthing in the shallow waters. We need to know what type of systems have they conceived to achieve the effectiveness.
     
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    Picard Lt. Colonel RESEARCHER

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    Last I heard it uses submarine-type propellers so as to be quieter. But that wasn't my point, my point was that it is full third larger than Arleigh Burke in length, and large ship requires lot of space to maneuver, plus there is alway danger from mines, torpedoes, shore artillery, land-based aircraft and missiles and so on; and so large ship would be quite a missile magnet.
     
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    Btw… Congrats on your 600th Post.
     
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    Picard Lt. Colonel RESEARCHER

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    Thanks.
     
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