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We don't want Pakistan to disintegrate: India

Discussion in 'International Relations' started by DaRk KnIght, May 25, 2011.

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  1. DaRk KnIght

    DaRk KnIght Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    "David Headley [ Images ] has only allayed our worst fears and whatever is being said at Chicago only confirms our suspicion," commented an official who is accompanying Prime Minister Dr Manmohan Singh [ Images ] to Addis Ababa.

    "We had always maintained that terror outfits have been working closely with the Inter-Services Intelligence and the David Headley testimony only clarifies our stand. There has been a sustained hate campaign against India [ Images ] in Pakistan, and this testimony will give Pakistan a lot to answer. Rest assured, this time it is serious and cannot be brushed under the carpet," the official added.

    "We have been closely assessing the Headley issue and have taken note of it. Pakistan needs to come clean this time. They have to be answerable this time around since many names have come out this time," he said.

    "The talks with Pakistan are on two different aspects. We want to be good neighbours. But Pakistan should be serious about combating terrorism emerging out of its soil. Pakistan needs to realise that hate campaigns against India is not helping it," he said.

    "The situation in Pakistan is very fragile and their stability is at stake. India really hopes that wisdom prevails, and they wake up to the harsh reality. It would be necessary for them to act in their own interest as well, and despite umpteen reminders the Pakistan continues to be used for launching attacks," he said.

    "These issues will be taken up when the next round of talks with Pakistan," the official pointed out.

    "Despite all our differences, we don't want Pakistan to disintegrate. We wish that Pakistan gets its act together and focuses on development. India really wishes that Pakistan becomes stable, since it is in the interest of the overall stability in the region," he added.

    On the ongoing 26/11 trial in Pakistan, the official said that India is putting pressure on Pakistan on this aspect.

    "Their investigation is incomplete and going at an extremely slow pace. It looks as though it will take years to complete. The purpose of justice should not be defeated," the official said.

    On India's most wanted error list, the official was noncommittal in his reply, but said, "We have sent many lists and we hope that Pakistan takes them seriously."

    He said that during the forthcoming talks with the United States scheduled for July, all bilateral issues concerning US and India will be discussed. "Issues pertaining to our neighbours will also be taken up," he added.

    The Kritika Biswas issue, said that India would surely take up the issue.

    "We had expressed our anguish when she was arrested. We find it intriguing that she was arrested on the basis of a mere complaint. Moreover, the student who confessed to the crime was just asked to join another school," he said.

    "Why was there no real action taken against the actual culprit? It is extremely disturbing when an India is treated poorly. These are nothing but double standards," the official said.

    We don't want Pakistan to disintegrate: India - Rediff.com India News
     
  2. DaRk KnIght

    DaRk KnIght Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    India's Official Position: We have always maintained that a strong pakistan is in our favour. We strongly condemn these attacks.

    India's Unofficial Position: :dance3::dance3::dance3:
     
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    One 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Disintegrated Pak is:

    Good for:
    1. Baluchistan.
    2. Sindh.
    3. Fata.
    4. Afghanistan.
    5. Iran.
    7. US.
    8. Russia.
    9. India.
    10. Rest of the world except.....

    Bad:
    1. Punjab.
    2. China.

    What do you think guys am i right??????
     
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  4. xXX-Nair:::Saab-XXx

    xXX-Nair:::Saab-XXx Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    If pak gets Disintegrated It will be better for the people Currently staying in pak...they will be benefiting form it the most...
     
  5. JanjaWeed

    JanjaWeed Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    nair saab.. that will give bit of a breather to us! 'mine is bigger than your's' argument will be between punjabis, baluchis, pashtuns & sindhis!!:lol:
     
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    Every part will be getting aid after that???
     
  7. Hembo

    Hembo OLD MOD STAR MEMBER

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    He he he!!!! :lol:

    Evil you!!!

    But seriously, we want a stable Pakistan in our neighbor. Don't want those brain washed Jihadi's (If I can dare call them one) to trickle down to our side and try influence our liberal Muslims...

    Also a stable Pakistan will enable us to divert more fund for upliftment of the under-privilege and cut our budget deficit.

    Anybody wondered why China is what it is now? It's because they did not have to spend a fortune on their defence when they launched their growth vehicle.
     
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    Stable Pak will only benefit Ching Chong Che. We can have very good relation with Baluch people who are as pro India as Afghani's. Don't have to worry about gas coming from Iran or from Central Asia, no need to worry about second Mumbai attack from sea that much as we do now. No problems with Ching Chong Che having their subs and ships on the Arabian sea. If ever attacked, our politicians can have courage to send our commando's to do their best. I DO NOT FIND ANY CONS IN THIS ONLY PROS.:taz:
     
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  9. Hembo

    Hembo OLD MOD STAR MEMBER

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    You think you (Or Ching Chong Che for that matter) can prosper make the future generation of our respective countries live in a highly developed and peaceful environment with your kind of enmity?

    You fuel Baloch/ Tibet insurgency.. Ching Chong Cho fuels Assam/ Kashmir/ Nagaland/ Chola Kingdom/ Socialist India/ United Bengal and so on.. US fuels Taiwan/ Xixian insurgency...

    What do you think these will end.. You downplay Pakistan as it is weak.. China downplays India/ US downplays China....

    You think it's a right approach??

    Think (And read) again..
     
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    One 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    That is the fear you have.

    What happened to Soviet Union and well known cold war hysteria Americans/Europeans had????

    For them splitting of Soviet Union came as a relief. If there were people like you in the US govt then US would have supported their economy and they would have built millions of nuclear bombs and much bigger and better than the Americans.

    So, what will you do now? Give them more money to build more bombs so that your children could live in fear and if war breaks out what you expect then?? ha?? Fall on your knees and beg for mercy???? CUT THE BLOODY CANCER BEFORE IT ENGULFS THE WHOLE BODY. Chop it out so that your body will survive. Sooner the better.

    Take a leaf out of Israel. If Iraqi nuclear site were not bombed would you think they would have survived by now?? That would have been the debate now.
     
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    Hembo OLD MOD STAR MEMBER

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    So you wanna follow the US & Israel foreign policy, I get it. But IMO, US foreign policy is highly hememoneous and hypocratic and non-effective in bringing peace to the world. Even if one wants to emulate to be as hegemoneous as US, we'll need another 50+ years of growth to sustain a multi-point agression for longer durations. As for the timid suggestions of fueling Baloch & Sindh & other separatists secretly, we sure have not learnt from those (namely Pakistan) who had tried these cowardly tactics on India and failed miserably.

    I prefer an independant and bold foreign policy. Only bold talks will not achieve anything. It sounds like dog bark, if one cannot go and attack Pakistan like Israel does to Iraq. Even Israel in today's world having second/ third/ fourth thought on attacking/ curbing Iran's neuclear ambition. Being practical is not necessarily cowardly, and shouting juvenile war-cry is not always brave.

    If we can go on a all out combat to teach Pakistan a lession/ break it into pieces (like '71), I'm all for it. Do it for all my money's worth. But these cowardly suggetions of fueling separatists secretly does not cut a deal win my mind. If one has to believe, these kind of tactics ever pays off, then China will have to be the greatest potential gainer with the kind of dynamics (and potential) India has. But, IMHO, these are failed tactics and will not work. It'll rather reduce our credibility in the the world.

    No one is asking India to pray and pay for Pakistan's prosperity. No country in the world has progressed that way. But, when I say a stable and progressing Pakistan, it means, if and only if, Pakistan realizes and acts accordingly do away with its cancerous foreign policy (specially towards India & Afghanisthan), stop brainwashing the religious bigots, then only the stability and prosperity will come to Pakistan. That stability has to be self generated and sustained, not by US/ China (or India for that matter) or anyone else created. That kind of stability is good for India.

    Anyways, to each to his own.
     
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    Looks like I bumped into a heated argument.. Goodie!!!

    I kind of agree with parts of what both of you are saying. In my opinion, the US foreign policy IS flawed in many ways and we should not try to emulate it in every aspect. We should DEFINITELY not try to breed terrorists in other countries... But then again, I don't think anyone here talked about training terrorists hembo... other than you.

    I think it IS true that India and Pakistan share a very bitter relationship. It is also true that this relationship is unlikely to improve in the near future (because the issues that soured our relationship are not the type that are forgotten easily). Hence, as someone else has already pointed out, it probably is good for India if terrorists continue blowing Pakistani military planes - in the short run atleast. But there is a big difference between Pakistan losing a few (or many) planes and the country disintegrating. I think all that terrorism is accomplishing is making Pakistan more scared and making them feel more vulnerable and hence pushing them further towards China - almost as a necessity.

    So Ching Chong Che will be able to make naval ports in the Arabian Sea with even less problems from Pakistan now. India DOES want a stable, confident Pakistan that (let's be reasonable here) is friendly with China and gets subtle military help from China but does not allow China to do crazy things (like build military ports just outside Indian waters) because they are worried about Indian reactions. Right now, they are SO worried already that they aren't thinking straight and helping spark a third world war in the relative future (I'm talking about the increase of nuclear material production, anti-India chatter etc.)

    So... We should definitely be worried about what's going on and from the amount our government is spending on the military, it's obvious that we ARE worried. However, we should not try to back pakistan to a corner after every little thing cuz we tried that before and that led to Kargil. We don't want a war now, right?
     
  13. Bad Wolf

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    how can you imagine pakisatn with anti Indian policy and now think about 8-10 anti Indian country
    we don't want increase our enemy count .Even after breaking pakistan at 71 of after giving freedom bangladesh is not our true friend .still bangladesh protecting Indian enemy and shelter for pakistani terrorist
     
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    Can you just imagine if pak was not broken??? nuclear missiles on both sides of the border?? It would have just been OMG!!!!!!!
     
  15. Bad Wolf

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    america and russia both are having nuke at ready to fire position ant every time but still we are alive . nuke for power supremacy not for use if any one use then that was last day of world.
     
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