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Western Media's Bias against India II

Discussion in 'Europe & Russia' started by GSLV Mk III, Nov 14, 2017.

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  1. GSLV Mk III

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    13 years have passed and they haven't changed even a little bit.

    Remember the 'India funding MQM 'story ? It didn't have a single proof either.
     
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    Not directly related to India, but this is pure gold. A journo (not a scientist) bitches about how science is sexist.



    With this sort of feminism becoming popular in the western world there is little wonder why BBC did a hit-job on India showing how Indians (actually a small forest dwelling tribal community) brands (tatooes to be exact) their women...In a society where even scientific topics such as sexual dimporphism among humans is seen as sexist, Indians who 'brand their women' would be perceived as cavemen.
     
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    You're certainly a very strange chap GSLV. You make a fair point about complaining about science being sexist, and then use it to launch a justification for women being branded and chuck in the BBC. It's like some form of moral yoga.
     
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    And you seem to be a radical feminist with a rather poor understanding of the English language !! He's drawing an analogy .

    Damn !! You seem like you're a character right out of Spitting Image .Can't tell if you're spoofing or serious and unintentionally funny .
     
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    Ummm no, it wasn't an analogy.
     
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    Hence proved !!
     
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    Nope, that's not an analogy and branding should be reserved for cattle not women.
     
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    Here they use a Pakistani to raise Kashmiri issue, during Shashi Tharoor's Anti-Colonist interview. Shashi Tharoor deals with it brilliantly. But Shame on Pakistan for exploiting such a situation.
     
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    https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2015/...but-britain-doesnt-owe-india-any-reparations/

    Sorry, Shashi Tharoor, but Britain doesn’t owe India any reparations


    As one of a parade of speakers debating the British empire at the Oxford Union, Shashi Tharoor cannot have expected his short speech to be viewed more than three million times. Reparations, he told his audience, ‘are a tool for you to atone for the wrongs that have been done. Let me say with the greatest possible respect: it’s a bit rich to oppress, enslave, kill, torture, maim people for 200 years and then celebrate the fact that they are democratic at the end of it.’ Tharoor, an MP in the opposition Congress party, was lauded by the Indian prime minister Narendra Modi, who said, ‘What he spoke there reflected the sentiments of the citizens of India.’ It was an inauspicious omen for Modi’s visit to Britain later this year, the first by an Indian prime minister in nearly a decade.

    Reparations for war have a long history – the British liked to impose them at the drop of a hat, for example billing the Tibetan government Rs. 2.5 million after invading Tibet in 1904. Compensation for larger and more nebulous crimes is, like many ideas now floating in the intellectual ether, American in origin. In Martin Luther King Jr’s 1963 speech at the Lincoln Memorial, he said the promise of ‘life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness’ was not being fulfilled: ‘It is obvious today that America has defaulted on this promissory note, insofar as her citizens of color are concerned.’ Ta-Nehisi Coates returned to the theme last year with an influential article in the Atlantic suggesting the US needed a ‘national reckoning’ over the debts of slavery. Coates has a point: anyone who passes time in the southern states of America or in the Caribbean will notice the enduring consequences of chattel slavery.

    Tharoor’s demand that Britain should pay reparations to India for historic damage rests, though, on insecure foundations. He observed that India’s share of the world economy dropped from 23 to 4 per cent during the centuries of informal and formal British rule. This change had more to do with the rapid economic transformation of western Europe by the Industrial Revolution than it did with adjustments inside India: a largely agricultural economy could not match an industrialising one. His claim rests on the ‘drain theory’ — that Britain sucked away India’s prosperity — proposed by late 19th century nationalists like the Liberal MP Dadabhai Naoroji. When India gained independence and the ‘drain’ stopped, there was no sign of the promised surplus.


    Tharoor argued that Britain owed a debt of £1.25 billion to the Indian government at the end of the second world war for the 2.5 million volunteers who had fought the Axis powers, but it was ‘never actually paid.’ Not only was this debt honoured, but it formed an essential part of Jawaharlal Nehru’s early economic planning. The governor of the Reserve Bank of India later complained that the new prime minister had run through the sterling balances ‘as if there was no tomorrow.’



    Tharoor concluded his witty and entertaining speech by saying his concern was not monetary value, but ‘the principle that reparations are owed’ – saying he would be happy for India to be paid £1 a year by Britain for the next 200 years. It was here that he betrayed the essential frivolity of his case. He was appealing not for the rebalancing of entrenched global financial structures that date to the 18th century, but for moral victory. Like a surface-to-air missile, he locked on to the spot where he knew his well-heeled Oxford Union audience would be most vulnerable: postcolonial guilt. It did the speaker no harm that his voice is of the orotund type heard in early television documentaries about the royal family. Tharoor told an Indian TV anchor that so many of the audience trooped through the yes lobby in support of his reparations motion that the ‘swank dinner’ following the debate was delayed.

    The irony of the case for compensation is that it would have made little sense to those who were actually subjects of the British empire. Indian politicians in the 21st century sometimes appear to be more anti-imperialist than their predecessors who risked their lives for independence in the 1930s and 40s. For much of his public career, Gandhi viewed the empire as a guarantor of his civil rights. Even after spending eleven years in British jails, Nehru was happy to toast the King Emperor and to make sure the Union Jack was not lowered when the Indian tricolor was raised. The Indian National Congress, the forerunner of Tharoor’s party, was for most of its existence a collaborationist movement. India’s hereditary princes were almost without exception imperialists. Only a small number of people in the 20th century sought the violent overthrow of British rule in India. Even nationalists who were infuriated by the structural racism inherent in the empire often saw empire as a progressive force. British rule in India was an act of complicity, a joint venture between the elites of the two nations. Today, all of that historical complexity has been forgotten: an attack on the empire by a politician is a risk-free way of ensuring cross-party unity and vigorous applause.

    Paying a token reparation of £1 a year would be an absurdity. It presupposes that the government which might have arisen in India in the absence of the British would have been preferable to the one that resulted. Particularly, it supposes that the alternative regime would have produced comparable stability for the growth of internal trade. At the start of the 18th century after the depredations of the Mughal emperor Aurangzeb, the subcontinent was in a state of bitter, broken conflict. In its wake, outsiders from Europe were able to pay mercenaries to assert dominance on their behalf. Looking forward towards the period after independence in 1947, there is nothing in the conduct of the Congress party during their long decades in power to suggest they might have used compensation wisely or well. The 1970s marked a growth rate in India of below 1 per cent. Nor is there the slightest chance that an expression of British remorse for long forgotten political choices, which occurred at a different time and in an entirely different historical context, would engender any respect in India, a country with no tradition of contrition. Being an Indian politician means never having to say you’re sorry.
     
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    They will not change, Pakistan is sore loser. It is fixated on Kashmir, paranoid about India. When they accuse a separatist of Indian funding they kill two birds with one stone.
     
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    What about their primitive Honor Killing of Princess Diana, because she ran away with a Egyptian Arab.

    Who was Dodi Al Fayed? Princess Diana’s lover who also died in the tragic Paris accident
    http://metro.co.uk/2017/08/30/who-w...so-died-in-the-tragic-paris-accident-6890188/

    Diana: 'I need Dodi marriage like a rash'
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1572918/Diana-I-need-Dodi-marriage-like-a-rash.html


    They killed their own Princess and now they want to point finger on us.

    A glimpse into their minds
    Sex abuse gangs view white girls as 'worthless' and 'trash'
    https://news.sky.com/story/sex-abuse-gangs-view-white-girls-as-worthless-and-trash-10982586
     
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    Would you like some tin foil to go with that hat?

    And now you're conflating Asian sex abuse gangs with Britain as a hole. Fantastic.

    But keep it up. All this diversion is bound to distract people from how terrible the economic management of post-Independence India by your government has been. I mean, the Commies who took over the PRC made it grow far slower than the ROC (3 times slower), who previously ruled China, yet still they are outpacing India by more than two-fold. That makes their economic management more than twice as bad as terrible.
     
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    No one 'brands' women in India- have you ever seen such a custom among British Indians in the UK ?

    A tribal community in India (with less than 100,000 population) has as a custom of tatooing floral patterns on their body, both men and women of that community do it.

    But when liars at BBC found out this, they gave the story a spin, claiming that 'Indian women' (like 600 million of them?) are 'forcefully branded' (no, tatooing is not branding and it is not done forcefully) to portray Indians as misgonystic cavemen.

    Or maybe given India's rising soft power & acceptance of Indian culture worldwide, BBC is trying to counter it by to villify Indians and our culture.

    That is why we don't take your propaganda media at face value. They are liars and propagandists.
     
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    Yeah right- Asian, as if these people are Chinese, Vietnamese and Indians. Remember what I said earlier, British always have this love for islamists, especially Pakistanis.

    And no, 'white British' too have been part of numerous pedophilia links, including media personalities and MPs.
     
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