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What should be the strategy of India against China in the war?

Discussion in 'Defence Analysis' started by Parmar Rajput Warrior, Aug 24, 2017.

  1. Parmar Rajput Warrior

    Parmar Rajput Warrior IDF NewBie

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    Above are two pictures, one is that of a chess board (symbolizing India’s way of thinking) and the second picture is that of a game called GO (An essential board game that every Chinese military officer plays).

    GO is one of the essential arts that every Chinese strategist plays in his life time. It's the foundation of the Chinese thought and an essential foundation to Sun Tzu’s Art of war that every Chinese official follows. GO is a game that doesn't believe in face to face confrontation. It simply believes in acquiring as much territory as possible as a factor of victory. While chess is the art of confrontation, it talks about out maneuvering your opponent in a face to face confrontation. In GO the winner is the one who patiently out maneuvers his opponent in multiple ways till one doesn't realize that he has been out cornered slowly. It's a game of acquiring as much territory as possible and not causing as many casualties as possible as is the foundation of chess way of thinking.

    The problem is that India military strategy is the chess way of thinking and Chinese Military which is heavily inspired by Sun Tzu’s ART OF WAR believes in the GO strategy. China will never want to have a face to face confrontation, no matter how much military fire power it has as Sun Tzu says, a wise general is the one who feigns a attack some where but wins a war some where else. It is important for us to understand that the war will not be fought in Doklam or Ladakh, it shall be played at a different terrain, at a different arena. The China’s focus on territory as a part of GO strategy is evident in the South China sea. In India,the war is not in Doklam but is being played in the economic arena, which it uses as a chip to keep on getting a bigger piece of India’s economy daily.

    India’s military brass, its military way of thinking has to evolve from the chess way of thinking to the GO way of thinking.

    Solution:

    While China might want to outmaneuver India’s strategy by tricking us into believing that the small skirmishes shall be leading to a war, it silently would be developing schemes of which CPEC is a part. The problem however with China is that it acts like a bully in the international arena, but blinded by its aspiration to be a regional super power it has forgotten one very important Sun Tzu’s principle “A long war is never a solution” . China’s strategy to keep on pushing for economic dominance has acquired one of the world’s highest debts because of its one sided strategy to enter world market by dominating the manufacturing sector. India should focus on certain facts like the one above, the way by which China can be countered not on the field of war but in the points where it gets hurt the most. It is China’s profit if we keep on focusing on Pakistan and consider China an imminent threat and not an immediate threat. Thus our focus should shift from viewing China as an immediate threat, then only will our military brass think like the Chinese, move like the Chinese and above all irritate them in their own game.

    - By Gajendra Singh Shekhawat, Member of Parliament (Source)
     
  2. Golden_Rule

    Golden_Rule Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    These are very insightful observations. The most important factor of how one chooses to play which game is dependent on the resources on has. These resources in the current context are the unaccountable deep pockets and military muscle of China with which it has acquired territory or is in the process of doing so - using the oldest Diocletian's trick or the Hegelian Dialectic of Problem-Reaction-Solution. The territories already acquired are of Tibet, Uighur, Inner Mongolia, Manchuria, Tajikistan, India the Nine dashed lines and the South China Sea Islands of Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei, Indonesia, Thailand, Taiwan, Japan and those in pipeline are of Sri Lanka, Myanmar, Maldives, Djibouti, Bangladesh, Nepal and Pakistan.

    So China did play Chess in its formation days, still plays with weaker nations as well as plays GO with stronger nations like Japan, India and the US.

    India need to adopt a similar strategy of a combination of both approaches.
     
  3. surya kiran

    surya kiran 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    If you want to beat China, we need to either cut north and take PoK or atleast part of it which connects to Afghanistan. This will essentially kill CPEC. Second is to go full hog with the Americans and support Balochi rebels via a civil war.

    My preference would be both. Initiate a civil war in Balochistan and then cut the CPEC by moving north. Moving west will need us to take Abbotabad, which would mean crossing the IB. The terrain north though may not be conducive to an assault and it will require heavy artillery in numbers which today we may not have.

    But, if you want to bring China to its knees, control the CPEC route.

    @Hellfire @vstol jockey
     
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  4. Golden_Rule

    Golden_Rule Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Pakistan held POK for 70 years, India can also hold Abbotabad and others of same size as POK for 70 years by application of rule of reciprocity.
     
  5. Pundrick

    Pundrick Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Chinese think that long time war is not possible and they want a swift action but they think in isolation without considering the doctrine of adversaries as IA also think about the same philosophy. Sino-India border is very long, anybody can open front anywhere and capture small part of land to negotiate the terms on equal footings.

    Plus PLA which relies on making videos and shows it at 1.20 rate to look faster, very clearly understands that AP & Sikkim is not the best part to fight a war against India, coz even 200 IA personal equipped with anti-tank weapons and heavy MMG can hold their battalion of 40-50 tanks very easily for a day.

    Plus similarly IA will consider such step in Siachin or AP region to retaliate with SFs and small weapons, so nobody will attack at the moment. Both are waiting for one another.

    But one thing is for sure that chinese communists now understands one think, that handling Indian affairs and bullying on south-western border neighbors is no longer a cake walk.
     
  6. old driver

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    I am A Chinese,i do not know how to play GOat all .maybe i am not clever enough_:)3」∠❀)_
     
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    sangos Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    With one swoop the US can send CPEC to an early grave- sanction the Chinese banks which finances in US $.
     
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  8. YarS

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    Both India and China are very peaceful and pacifistic societies. India have a Varna system (that don't allow to many of them fight with weapon in their hands), China with Dao cult have a saying "You should not use a good iron for making nails, and you should not use a good men to do a soldiers". Both of them have a problems with malnutrion. Between them are mountains, so it is very good defensive position.
    To capture enemies territory and converting your enemies in the friends you need minimum one your soldier for twenty occupied civilians. May be even more, becouse of cultural differences. As for me, India can mobilise to expeditionary forces (becouse of political, religiouse and economical reasons) not more that 5 millions of men. So, occupied China's population should not be more that 1000 crores. So, in first stage of war (exchange of nuclear strikes) India should kill more that 90% of Chines population without her own human losses. As for me, it's unreal.

    So, there are no place for total war, but only for little local conflicts.

    I hope, that closest friend both of India and China is Russia. We shall never allow them to make a seriouse war.
    Live in peace, brothers.
     
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  9. vstol jockey

    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    I do understand your problem.You are cheats who take money from India for weapons and sell the tech of those weapons to China for more money. If just one among India or China survive, who will buy your junk.
     
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  10. YarS

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    It's a market. You can do same things.
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Thanks buddy, for being true. You too are a grave digger. Looking for money from dead.
     
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    YarS Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    If we shall not sell weapon to China and India - both of you will be occupied by Europeans. Do you really want it?
     
  13. X_Killer

    X_Killer Captain FULL MEMBER

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    more firm actions against Pakistan and China would be expected between 2019-24.

    India should share more support for Baluchistan and Tibet liberation
     
  14. YarS

    YarS Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Hm... Watching results of programmers championships it is not true. They can achieve good places, sometimes.
    https://icpc.baylor.edu/worldfinals/results
     
  15. Veeran

    Veeran BANNED BANNED

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    Welcome back.
    You misunderstand the varna system. It is a quality based system. Anyone who signs up for justified war (dharmic war in Indian concept) automatically becomes a Kshatriya. Or in a society, anyone who stands against injustice automatically becomes a Kshatriya.
    Regarding the numbers, I read in an analysis that India can ready close to 30 million in one month.
    But it is true that we are very pacified state.
    And it is not because there are not strong numbers of "aggressive" people, it is because India is a democrasy of a billion. A billion people with foreign controlled media is difficult to manage. So it is not easy yes. In a way we have some bad karmam that we are debilitated, kind of like an elephant tied to a tree.
     

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