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Why ban only on slaughter of cows and bulls? HC asks Maha govt

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    Why ban only on slaughter of cows and bulls? HC asks Maha govt
    Mumbai, Apr 6, 2015 (PTI):
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    Asking the Maharashtra government why animals like goats do not figure in its ban on cattle slaughter, the Bombay High Court today mooted a licence policy by which import of meat of cows and bulls slaughtered outside the state can be permitted.

    A division bench of Justices V M Kanade and A R Joshi was hearing a bunch of petitions challenging a provision under section 5 (d) of the recently amended Maharashtra Animal Preservation (Amendment) Act which bans possession and consumption of meat of animals like cows and bulls.

    According to the petitions, the flesh of these animals, if slaughtered outside Maharashtra, should be allowed inside the state. "Why has the state banned only cows, bulls and bullocks? What about other animals like goat?" the bench asked.

    To this, Advocate General Sunil Manohar said the government was considering it.
    "This is just the start (banning of cows, bulls and bullocks). We may consider banning slaughter of other animals too. As of now the state felt it was necessary to protect cows, bulls and bullocks," he said.

    The court also suggested that the government have a licence policy by which import of meat of cattle slaughtered outside the state can be permitted.

    "Section 5 (d) of the Act which is under challenge does not prohibit slaughter of cattle outside the state. Why should a person be prevented to eat or possess beef that has been slaughtered outside? Indirectly you (government) are prohibiting slaughter of animals outside the state too," Justice Kanade said.

    Senior counsel Aspi Chinoy, appearing for one of the petitioners, argued that section 5 (d) of the Act was arbitrary and against the fundamental right of a citizen and that if the object of the Act was to preserve cattle in Maharashtra, then import of meat should be allowed.

    Advocate General Manohar, however, objected and said, "How can the state say slaughter of cattle in Maharashtra amounts to cruelty but one can slaughter outside the state? That would also amount to cruelty. The Act incidentally prohibits import also." The bench directed the government to file its affidavit in reply to the petitions and posted the hearing on April 20.

    Kind of big to keep as pets. What do you do with them.
     
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    5 HOLY ANIMALS OF INDIA

    Lord Shiva,Tiger the vehicle of “Maa Durga“, mouse is also considered as one of the holy animals in India, It is vahana (mount/vehicle) of the Lord Shri Ganesh. The Karni Mata Temple is very popular as the temple of rats in Rajasthan. Indian Eagle Garuda and peacock are considered as the sacred bird of Hindu. Not only animals are worship as sacred in India, Holy rivers, Sacred trees, land and birds are also worship in Indian culture. Street show of animals like monkey, bear and snakes used by the tribe people for living hood. Still in the rural parts of the country,buffalo, goat and chicken’s are sacrificed to deities by the various tribes. The animals are sacrificed as part of an old annual tribal custom or tradition in India and some time there are incident of killing of wild animals by the villagers too. To describe the Significance of animals in Indian culture “Sacred Animals of India” book has been published. The book “Sacred Animals of India” authored by Dr. Nanditha Krishna and released by Maneka Gandhi the animal rights activist.
    Cow: The cow is holiest animal in India and their slaughter is banned throughout India. Cow is one of the most worshiped animal in India, she treated as the gods in the shape of animal. Cow the “Sacred Animals of India” is even more than a mother in the sense that it fulfills all the needs of her children. The cow in India is believed as a gift of the gods to the peoples.[​IMG]Monkey: Monkey is believed as the form of God Hanuman or Bajrang Bali, the god of power and strength. Many Indian temple’s like Durga Temple Varanasi and famous Monkey Temple Galta, Jaipur is the home for thousand’s of monkey’s. The biggest monkey is known as Langur or Hanuman Langur, is the most sacred in India. There is a famous Ubud Monkey Forest and temple complex in Ubud, Bali which is one of the most tourist attraction in Bali and Swayambhunath in Nepal.
    [​IMG]Snake: The worship of serpent deities is present in several old cultures, In the Hindu religion’s the Lord Shiva wear the Nag snake “Indian Cobra” as an ornament around his neck. Indian Cobra is the most sacred snake in India. Nag Panchami, the festival of snakes, is a Hindu festival dedicated to the worship of snakes and serpent deities. It is an important festival in India, peoples offer puja, Milk and worship the snake.
    [​IMG]Elephant: The elephant is vehicle of Indra and “The elephant-headed God” Shri Ganesh, deity of success and education is worship by the Indian peoples. The elephant in India is part of Hindu ethos and culture. It was used as an instrument of war and also as a log carrier in the woods. The Great Indian elephant is decorated and worshiped in Kerala, Many major temples own elephants others hire or are donated elephants during the festival seasons.[​IMG]Tiger: The Royal Bengal Tiger “National Symbols of India” is one of the sacred animal in India. The National animal of India Tiger and Great Lion are the vehicle of Hindu deity “Maa Durga“. The Bengal tiger is Worshiped by the tribes and by the sundervan people as well.[​IMG]
     
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    Our land, our rules!
     
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    Cows help us in ploughing our fields. Because of it India is the largest producer of milk. If cows cease to exist then the Indian agriculture and her farmers will vanish within a week. So, It has more advantages than just killing her for meager meat.

    We respect this animal for her contribution to our well being. Goat, chicken and fish are there for all the non-veg stuff. I support Maharashtra Govt. decision. Hypocrites can make all the hue and cry as its a democrazy.

    Pork i.e. pig meat is banned in Islam. But I see no body making a hue and cry over that. Get a life! looser....
     
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    Muslims and Jews don't eat pork, but I don't know as they make laws forbidding others to eat pork. If India is going to pass laws that people cant have beef because of its being against the Hindu religion, shouldn't they also pass laws that people cant have pork because its against the Islamic and Jewish Religion.
     
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    There was a good quote i found

    "One dead cow can feed a few , But one living cow can feed thousands."
     
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    On lighter note :


    English men have 1 month of festival in which they don’t eat non veg.

    In their area there lived a sardaar who eats daily chicken.

    Disturbed with the smell of chicken the English men decided to complain to Pope.

    Pope called up Sardaar and asked him to start following the Christian Religion and practice and he agreed.

    So the Pope sprinkled holy water on Sardaar and said “You born as a “Sikh”, raised as a “Sikh”, but now you are a”Christian”

    Next day again Chicken smell came from Sardaar house So all English men visited Sardar’s house and they saw……

    Sardaar was sprinkling Holy water on Chicken and said
    “You born as “Chicken”, raised as a “chicken” but now you are ..”Potato”..
    Christians shocked sardar rock
     
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    When ever I am not allowed to do something because of some one elses religion my rights have been violated.
     
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    Let me explain you with an example

    You have a right to be nude in a "nude beach" in europe

    But you don't meet the pope in that way . Why ?????
     
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    Still trying to figure out the logic of that.
     
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    I can understand legislating from the perspective of respect for some beloved tradition; whether or not I agree in a particular instance, I can understand the motivation.

    I'm not going to say it's right or wrong, only that we need to invest critical, honest thought into all aspects of this matter, and reflect on our identity and aspirations. Personally, I believe while it's a complicated matter, it can at least be said that there is a noble element to consideration to the welfare of all sentient life, even if it conflicts with human interests.

    It is something that can be convincingly argued from a secular perspective as well. The Government of Denmark also banned Kosher and Halal slaughter; that doesn't mean they were advocating Christianity by forbidding a foreign religious practice. Indian civilization has a remarkable history in cultural and legal consideration for welfare of non-human sentient life to draw upon the wisdom of.

    Not using cattle as food animals does not have to be terribly significant economically. My only concern is, once we start, where is an objective place for the law to draw the line?

    Article 51A of our constitution mentions "(It shall be the duty of every citizen of India) to develop the scientific temper, humanism and the spirit of inquiry and reform".

    I'm not saying this particular instance of legislation can't jive with that pursuit. But even if it might not seem like a 'big deal', it does help set a precedent for society and government; whether it is justifiable to use government power as a tool for legislating our personal sensibilities, and how far any politician is able to go there.

    Is avoiding potential abuse with respect to this, something that can reliably be left to the capacity for reason and sense of duty of our politicians, or should we have legislative framework and perhaps a cultural appreciation of the limits of the law.

    And there are priorities such as food security to consider. Perhaps we will eventually reach a level of development where there will be virtually no economical or social preference for using livestock . But we are not yet at that point as a people, so we can have ideals but we must have a measure of realism in our approach to present realities.

    If we are going to expand the domain of law further to promoting or protecting some aspect of the cultural character of the people, it would be prudent to have some concrete legal framework, institution, or appreciation in general society, that gives due consideration (research, planning) to the long-term priorities of all our people.

    Also public nudism in most places should be legal, for sexy people. There should be a licensing office that issues license for different levels of acceptable nudity / revealing clothing according to standards of attractiveness; and it has to be renewed periodically according to how well one is aging.
     
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    You have better IQ according to you

    Try harder
     
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    Your ally Saudi Arabia has strict regulations on pork. Why can't we?? Fyi..... Many North East Indians including me consume pork.

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    Banned: Pork

    Since Saudi Arabia operates under Islamic law, all food entering the country must be “halal”. It is a country that considers all its citizens to be Muslim and any non-Muslim expats have to abide by its strict rules as well. Furthermore, because Saudi Arabia contains the two holy mosques, it considers having any pork inside the country desecration. Many other nations have similar laws restricting access to pork but they have never outright banned it, in order to accommodate their non-Muslim citizens and expats.

    Top 10 Everyday Things Banned in Saudi Arabia - Listverse

    Remember these are foreign faith to us. Sikhism, Jainism, Buddhism & Sanatan Dharma(that you call Hinduism) are the ones native to the Indian subcontinent. You are free to practice your faith. But you will also have to respect the sentiments of the mass.

    Moreover, This is a mere ban announced by a state Govt. not by the country. And laws here only stay on paper. They hardly get implemented on ground. What do you think people would have stopped slaughtering cows after that?? They might have gone on a killing spree by now. Soon they will get out of their live stock and become cattle thieves. :D

    Cattle thieves' bodies handed over to Bangladesh | Business Standard News
     
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    I thought India was better then Saudia Arabia, but then I guess religious bigots are religious bigots no matter where they are from.
     
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    India will be India. Fu*k off Americans! We don't need your advice. You people are a bunch of racist c*nts.
     
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