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Why did Mahatma Gandhi Manipulated Shloka of Bhagwat Geeta ??

Discussion in 'Education & Research' started by NKVD, Sep 27, 2017.

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Why did Mahatama gandhi used incomplete version of shloka of bhagwat geeta ??

  1. To make himself Icon to be worshipped by people

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  2. Political gains And vote bank politics

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  3. other reasons

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  1. NKVD

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    Real Shloka
    ""अहिंसा परमो धर्मः धर्म हिंसा तथैव च: l"
    (अहिंसा सबसे बड़ा धर्म है और धर्म रक्षार्थ हिंसा भी उसी प्रकार श्रेष्ठ है)


    Ahimsa Paramo Dharma Dharma himsa tathaiva cha,,
    (Non-violence is the ultimate dharma. So too is violence in service of Dharma).

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    There were already two groups within Indian National Congress. Balgangadhar Tilak faction supported violence, the other one supported engaging with the British for accomplishing the needs of the people. Gandhi came in this juncture. Maybe he wanted people to do Ahimsa movement, where participation will be huge from all walks of life. Violence is something which wont involve kids, women in those days.
     
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    both of them were students of metaphysics IE common human beings knowing the existence of the mother nature in their respective lifes ( experiencing the state of being helplessness ) , gandhi and buddha were . both were incomplete in their life . soul which is enlightened never preach or for that matter teach anything as after enlightenment , a soul ceases to posses any thoughts what so ever . no discrimination of right and wrong , no good or bad , and so on . debates are welcome and i will be very blunt with my words when ridiculing the so called incomplete gurus mahatma saints ( whatever one may call them of all the so called religion ) of the world .
    Shri Bhagwat Geeta , they use and abuse all their life like many other scriptures said and to be listened and followed by someone in certain special circumstances . i call them novice poor humans . gandhi was the best example and so was buddha and so are all the preachers of the world .
    i bet if gandhi or buddha knew the meaning of this below mentioned shlok :
    karmany evadhikaras te ma phalesu kadachana ma karma phala hetur bhur ma te sango stv akarman !
    friends on the forum can also kindly try to explain the meaning of the above mentioned shlok so as to enlighten me .
     
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  5. vstol jockey

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    This shloka is from second chapter of Shreemad Bhagwat Geeta and it is about Karmayog. The Lord is explaining to Arjuna the meaning of Karmayog in this.
     
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    TEXT 47
    karmany evadhikaras te
    ma phalesu kadacana
    ma karma-phala-hetur bhur
    ma te sango 'stv akarmani
    SYNONYMS
    karmani—prescribed duties; eva—certainly; adhikarah—right; te-of you; ma—never; phalesu—in the fruits; kadacana—at any time; ma—never; karma-phala—in the result of the work; hetuh—cause; bhuh—become; ma—never; te—of you; sangah—attachment; astu—be there; akarmani—in not doing.
    TRANSLATION
    You have a right to perform your prescribed duty, but you are not entitled to the fruits of action. Never consider yourself to be the cause of the results of your activities, and never be attached to not doing your duty.
    PURPORT
    There are three considerations here: prescribed duties, capricious work, and inaction. Prescribed duties refer to activities performed while one is in the modes of material nature. Capricious work means actions without the sanction of authority, and inaction means not performing one's prescribed duties. The Lord advised that Arjuna not be inactive, but that he perform his prescribed duty without being attached to the result. One who is attached to the result of his work is also the cause of the action. Thus he is the enjoyer or sufferer of the result of such actions.
    As far as prescribed duties are concerned, they can be fitted into three subdivisions, namely routine work, emergency work and desired activities. Routine work, in terms of the scriptural injunctions, is done without desire for results. As one has to do it, obligatory work is action in the mode of goodness. Work with results becomes the cause of bondage; therefore such work is not auspicious. Everyone has his proprietory right in regard to prescribed duties, but should act without attachment to the result; such disinterested obligatory duties doubtlessly lead one to the path of liberation.
    Arjuna was therefore advised by the Lord to fight as a matter of duty without attachment to the result. His nonparticipation in the battle is another side of attachment. Such attachment never leads one to the path of salvation. Any attachment, positive or negative, is cause for bondage. Inaction is sinful. Therefore, fighting as a matter of duty was the only auspicious path of salvation for Arjuna.
     
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    cos lets face it.. he is also the father of pseudo secularists.
     
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    Nehru & Gandhi were ideologically way ahead of their time...Both were like obito & madara trying to put genjutsu of everything hunky dory on masses in order to create a word of Infinite Tsukuyomi.... fortunately we had the likes of kakashi(sardar Patel) & black zetsus(Islamists) who showed us that such world doesn't exist & we have to accept reality as it is instead of running away from it & sadly liberals are still running trying to reach the end line & i hope they win :)
     
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    I think he simply wanted to show himself as some kind of peace loving Hero....
     
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    So who is d Naruto in our story who has d guts n strength to defeat india's enemies. :neo:
     
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    Fortunately no one but we have liberals who claim to carry same will of fire that he carried though :wink:
     
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    Maybe he used complete shloka but was qouted with half one by someone in particular situation and it stuck

    Happens even today

    Headlines do not often quote complete sayings
     
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    yes sir . that was my point . lord explaining to arjun only under those circumstances , special circumstances when a human soul is about to realize the presence of god everywhere in every particle . so all the shloka's as they call said during that time was just for arjun but for humanity . knowingly or unknowingly , everyone is moving towards his or her destiny . which is explained in Santana Dharma only which never preach or teach to follow some human soul assumed to be some sort of god or superpower or for that matter enlightened one , and the moment a human being starts preaching or start describing what is right and what is wrong , that very moment the conclusions can be made , AS it is said and i know , everything happens by the will and wish of the almighty ( whoever it may be allah ram jesus or any other or none mentioned ) , of him OR her being a common human being walking the path to spiritual enlightenment ( everyone is walking though some are aware and some are not ) because defining right or wrong good or bad challenges the truth , IE : everything happens by the will and wish of the almighty !
    and i understand samskript too . :cheers:
     
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    what was spoken to Arjuna was for everyone and not just for Arjuna. Moreover, please read carefully, it is about Yoga. A yoga is a combination of two or more. here it is about a soul and God also called parbrahmana. It is how you combine yourself with your lord. And in that the path of renunciation and path of Karma are equal with more emphasis on Karma.
     
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    goodevening sir
    sure , it was about karma and only karma but results , when someone define anything , as gandhi and buddha in question here or for that matter any other self proclaimed god man or god preaches anything to anyone to be followed by anyone in any life or circumstance , that very moment , he proves himself to be incomplete IE : just another guy satisfying his or her ego of being or knowing something more than the person he accompanies that moment . the enlightened ones never make opinions and justify or for that matter unjustify any action or karma to be performed , as good and bad are perceptions formed by novice soul's as all the karma's will get neutralized at the end of the life cycle of a soul .
    sir , i guess you forgot the title of the post about manipulation of shloka of shri bhagwat geeta . all i wanted to say was that both gandhi and buddha were just common human beings till they justified and unjustified any karma . they have got nothing to do enlightenment .
     

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