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Why India Can’t Hide Its Love For Israel Anymore

Discussion in 'International Relations' started by seiko, Nov 15, 2016.

  1. seiko

    seiko VETERAN ELITE MEMBER

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    India loves Israel; there is not even an iota of doubt about it. Arguably, there were several pretensions and preventions earlier, but now India and Israel are out in open to change their relationship status from ‘it’s complicated’ to ‘engaged’, and perhaps for some, even ‘married’.

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    With the arrival of Israeli President Reuven Rivlin at Mumbai airport for a six-day visit, both Tel Aviv and Delhi will send a strong message across the world about their bilateral relations. This, for the advocates of Indo-Israeli relations, is happening quite slowly, though. While they wish Godspeed to both the states, India, on its part, has evolved its Israeli policy, gradually calculating all the factors and their implications.

    It’s been almost 25 years since India began its diplomatic relations with Israel after recognising it in 1950 two years after its creation. Now, when the two states seem closer than ever before and their leaders are meeting and reciprocating state visits, the way only takes them forward to strengthen the ties.

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    Israel has always looked up to India, in order to garner support at the international forums, where it seeks support to legitimise its policies in the occupied Palestinian territories. India, however, has not been able to oblige Israel on all occasions, but voices its support for Israel’s fight against terrorism, allegedly originating from the neighbouring states. India, so far, has used the ‘abstinence card’ whenever it comes to dealing with the issues related to Israel.

    Things seem to be changing now. Earlier, the Indian leaders would try to keep the relationship with Israel as hidden as possible. The extent of diplomatic relations, economic pacts, defence ties and military deals with Israel were done in concealed manner. Even the Atal Bihari Vajpayee-led NDA government in the late 1990s would not venture out to speak openly about Indo-Israel relations, although India had sought Israeli help (and received it) during Kargil War in 1999.

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    It also seems a futile exercise to review history and see who said what. The Indian leadership, particularly under the BJP-led (National Democratic alliance) government has been consistent with its admiration for Israel. The two states are imagining a sustainable partnership and in fact working hard to achieve it, if it's not there already. And with growing dependence, any succeeding government will find it difficult to reverse the process.

    What Lies Ahead?
    Indian and Israel see each other as important strategic partners; this is the result of India’s changed foreign policy orientation after the Cold War and its economic liberalisation. For India, a struggling economy in 1992, there were some other factors that made it possible to go forward with its relationship with Israel during the Congress government led by P V Narasimha Rao.

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    Since 1992, Israeli leaders and state representatives have visited India almost two dozen times, while a similar number of visits have been made by their Indian counterparts. Although no Indian Prime Minister has visited Israel so far (there are assumption that PM Modi will be the first to do so), the visit made by President Pranab Mukherjee, in 2015, reflects a robust relationship between the two states.

    There is a general perception across the board that when it comes to India and Israel it’s only about war, intelligence and military aid. However, over the years, the two states have taken their cooperation to different levels. India and Israel cooperate with each other in research and development, technology, education, and of course tourism. Defence personnel and arms dealers are not the only ones who travel between the two countries, a high (and increasing) number of students, senior academics and researchers from both the countries visit various universities across India and Israel. And this is expected to go even further in the coming years.

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    Times of Israel

    India, Israel and International Community
    India has always had an engaging foreign policy vis-a-vis, West Asia. India has maintained good relations with all the Gulf States and has successfully made them understand its need to keep Israel on board. The theory that India may lose its Arab buddies by hanging out with Israel has remained unsubstantiated for years.

    India’s foreign policy makers have had an independent policy when it comes to balancing relations with the Arab States and Israel and even Iran. There is no doubt that off-late India apparently has moved closer to Israel, however, it has not been done at the cost of its relations with the Arab States.

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    Question of Palestine
    When it comes to Indo-Israel relations, it is difficult to ignore the question of Palestine. India’s solidarity with the Palestinian people is not new. It began with Gandhi and continues with the youngsters on Indian streets showing solidarity with the Palestinian people. As far as India’s foreign policy is concerned, India has made it clear that India wants a separate Palestinian state.

    Generally, a shallow assessment of the situation blames India’s Muslims for being the factors hampering India's relations with Israel because of their support for the Palestinian people. However, this assumption falls flat, when the public opinion from various sections of the Indian society comes in supports of the Palestinian cause.

    The leaders in Israel as well as Palestine know India’s position and have never forced India to shun any of its friends. India, on its part, has shown that it can deal with the commitments and aspirations of its Israeli and Palestinian friends at the same time.

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    It’s all out in open
    Several books, policy papers and research articles focussing on various aspects of Indo-Israel relations have been written in recent years. They all show is that India and Israel are developing bilateral relations by leaps and bounds. Therefore, any effort to keep the things secreted, while blaming a particular community or a few countries for hampering the process is not a smart policy. India should openly assert its relations with Israel.

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  2. Guru Dutt

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    Israel Is and was always a Jewish Land is the time of recorder history and its mentioned in oldest text avilable of that era like hebrew bible , bible and and even quran and roman and even egyptian artifacts/documents

    plus the fact India and israel were always friends and India was the only Land where Jews were never prosecuted for there religous beleives till emperial europeans came in late 16th centuary and started disturbing peacefull fabric of the subcontinent

    and we love Israel for its help in Bhuj earth quake and then many natural calamatoes and of course kargil war and making india part of the new world order which we were never part of deu to self imposed aparthaide deu to our NAM obsession
     
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    arbit 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Pranab Da has a very sullen expression on his face. LOL
    Things one has to do for ones country :lol:
     
  4. Levina

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    Interestingly Israel has emerged as a key partner for India in the sphere of agriculture among others. Israeli expertise and technologies are now widely used in horticulture, micro-irrigation,drip irrigation etc specially in Haryana and Maharashtra.

    Glad that i was not the only one to have felt so. Lol
     
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    arbit 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Yep, one of our most beneficial partnerships, if you ask me.

    Modi could have sent him zabardasti for all we know :)
     
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    actualt pranab da is worried about post retirement plans and his sekular vote bank and effects of his israel visit would have ... think about it
     
  7. Levina

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    Loyal!
    Ppl were expecting Modi to go, instead Pranab Mukherjee was sent. Obviously he wasnt happy. Lol
     
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  8. SpArK

    SpArK SorCeroR Staff Member ADMINISTRATOR

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    Israel is real.
     
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  9. Kalmuahlaunda

    Kalmuahlaunda Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Pranab da is an extremist hindu you should see him during durga/kali puja, this guy do his own puja like a pro-brahmin...
     
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    He already has had a very fulfilling life. Its time for him to retire. I think he also realises this, however his constipation stems from his 'convictions'


    Haha Touche!

    Forget about him being an extremist, thats the only thing hindu left about him. To be a loyal congressi while being witness to the most brazen appeasement politics practiced in quite some time doesnt do service to your hindu credentials.
     
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    Gessler BANNED BANNED

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    To be frank, I believe the post of President in India is pretty much a retirement scheme.

    A respectable position, not much leadership or active executive duties involved...you have to be active once in a while, but once you're done with that, you go home. Being President is often the last stage of political life for a bigwig like Pranab...even if a non-political person gets the position (like Abdul Kalam), it's still unlikely that they will pursue any state positions after that.

    :man_in_love:
     
  12. Lion of Rajputana

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    :man_in_love:[/QUOTE]

    You ever seen Israeli beach security? ;)

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    Abingdonboy Major IDF NewBie

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    Israel (leaving aside their close ties to the US) is one country I would have no apprehensions in India allying with. The interests these two nations share match up almost perfectly and there is very little the two sides could find to argue about (from a strategic perspective).

    India should learn every lesson possible from a nation of 7 million becoming a developed world leading power.
     
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    I'd go as far as to say that to a degree, its time to dump the Palestinians. And in a way we actually have begun to do that already. In simple terms if you asked Palestinians how Kashmir should be "settled," or who they support between India and Pak, or even if they condemn Islamic terrorist organizations which routinely hit India; and then asked Israelis the same thing, the answers would tell you who our real friends are and who aren't.
     
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    No need to dump per se, mere lip service should do fine.
     
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