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Why Indian Air Force May Best Chinese Jets In An Air Battle Over Tibet

Discussion in 'Indian Air Force' started by Hellfire, Aug 9, 2017.

  1. vstol jockey

    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    which highway and where all? I started that with another Brahmin called Parrikar. IAF will have to do over 4hr flights to and fro to have just about 20mins 250NM penetration in Tibet. And that too only six aircraft can be refuelled at a time wjhile the refueler itself will need another two aircraft for its own security depending on how close to the border the refuelling is done.
    Air warfare is not like making fool of Delhi by so called free electricity and water. Its about life and death. Do you get it Mr. AAP.
     
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    Paliwal Warrior Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Parts of point 1 related to logistics apply to runway. On
     
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    Golden_Rule Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    China has over 90 days of fuel stored with them
     
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    Wolfpack Captain FULL MEMBER

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    Unlike us where media leaks all our defence info and strategic assets and locations,Chinese PLA never discloses its strategic assets,resources or locations,It is assumed they have 90 days of fuel stored,when the capability could be much more to last for 6 months to 1 year in hidden asssets.
     
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    sangos Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    No worries its all public domain. Here you go - First off they DO NOT have a single dedicated air base in Tibet( HH Dalai Lama chooses toughest places to live indeed:troll:). Lhasa Gonggar, Shigatse, Linzhi & Ngari Gunsa are ALL civilian airports and do not have hardened banks. All they are capable of are staging few MRCAs. The real bases from where they can launch are thousands of kms away from the LAC in Xinjiang, Yunnan & Sichuan. Thats like flying from South to strike in Kashmir. So PLAAF is virtually non-existent on the plateau.

    The real war is going to be mind games. And we are going to launch a relentless blitzkrieg - i.e perception though media. Chinese mafia regime is going to pay dearly for bullying tiny countries with trade sanctions globally.
     
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    sangos Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    and this

     
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    randomradio Colonel Technical Analyst

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    Our strategic reserve is meant to survive supply shocks due to problems in the Middle East. We don't have issues with supply in case we are in trouble. Especially with the US on our side now.

    The Chinese need a strategic reserve if they are in trouble because their main supply routes can be compromised.
     
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    Are you sure?
     
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    Shekhar Singh 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Actually only Chinese claim having AESA on there j10 but never have given any detail. As per the Western media Chinese are struggling to get their first AESA and claims of integrating even with j20 is fake. But if you are saying then must have authentic source which I don't have.
    Thanks.
     
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    rockstar 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Our planning were right, going for LCAs if Chinese 3rd gen numerous planes is the real threat in air battle.

    But they are moving away from such massive air operations with 3rd gen jets (doctrine) since the gulf war.
     
  11. Wolfpack

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    Im saying unlike Democracy,they can build up assets and bases at swift pace due to their Industrial complex. Of course its going to boomerang on them badly after this fiasco every small country will start rallying around India and start showing eyeballs to CCP, China showed all its cards,while India is still keeping its cards close.
    Yunnan,sichuan are close to India, a Commercial airliner from Yunnan takes 4-5 hours to reach Kolkatta.Jets can do much faster.
     
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    Wolfpack Captain FULL MEMBER

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    We can never be sure on external support,we had to learn a lot of lessons about it.US is fickle minded. I am saying unlike us they don't disclose their secret military bases nor do they give tours of latest Nuclear submarine being built in dockyard,like our NDTV and other media does.
     
  13. Hellfire

    Hellfire Devil's Advocate THINKER

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    Few points in future possible combat scenario, if it is not limited to geographical area and only army:

    1. Expect Chinese Airborne Forces to 'secure' the bridges over Teesta and Mahananda in West Bengal to 'cut off Sikkim'.

    2. Expect strikes on the airfields with cluster munitions/bomblets in form of GB-6/TL500 to render the runways useless.

    3. Expect Chinese Airborne Forces to secure/neutralise air bases. This is achievable under certain circumstances for airfields at Tezpur/Baghdogra/Hasimara to name a few.

    4. Expect Tibetan origin PLA cadres, living in India, to be activated to 'hit' Indian vulnerable points like bridges along supply and logistics routes.

    5. Expect increased Pakistani aggression along LC with cross LC raids with an aim to capture/secure Indian positions, thereby keeping the action below threshold but tying up Indian troops. Not likely to have a Pakistani offensive across IB.

    6. PLAAF refuellers will take off from deep within their country and refuel their aircrafts over TAR to carry out offensive air operations over Indian air space. Reverse for IAF.

    Just trying to get the discussion back on line. Depth movement of IAF assets will only take place once the above steps are achieved by PLAAF/PLA.

    Additionally, majority of the civil platforms of aviation industry will be pressed into airlift of strike corps elements to either Northern or Western border, depending upon the tactical situation as prevalent.
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    However same things can be done by Indian Army and IAF also. But PLAN will be in a very bad situation in SCS. Chinese consider it as their private pond and if they are sunk in that pond, they will never be able to get over it for generations.
     
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    sangos Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Exactly. And thats waaaay enough time for our airspace surveillance radars at long ranges to easily detect/track all PLAAF MRCAs flying in from those bases. There is a very good reason they have not built air bases in Tibet - i.e. normal wear and tear of air assets make their already deprecated performance rapidly near zero on the plateau.

    We have already taking this to the next level inviting ASEAN leaders to the Republic Day. The day is not far off when IN will get very active in SCS. The start will be made with our oil explorations in Vietnam's EEZ.

    We are too large a country to depend on others.
     
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