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will we buy 48-74 su-35 or mig-35???

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  1. harshitrajyaguru

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    Russia is ready to
    export the new state-of-the-art
    Su-35 Flanker multirole air
    superiority/strike fighter to India,
    Malaysia and Algeria, Russia's
    state-run arms exporter
    Rosoboronexport said on Tuesday.
    "Algeria, Malaysia and India are
    our partners and if they express an
    interest, we will offer them the
    Su-35 fighter while fulfilling our
    current obligations," Alexander
    Mikheyev, head of the air force
    department at Rosoboronexport,
    said in an exclusive interview with
    RIA Novosti at the Farnborough
    International Air Show in England.
    In 2007, Sukhoi, which is part of
    Russia's United Aircraft
    Corporation, exported about 50
    Su-30MK2, Su-30MKM and
    Su-30MKI aircraft under contracts
    with a number of countries,
    including Algeria, India, and
    Malaysia.
    The company is planning to export
    at least 160 Su-35 fighters in the
    future, Sukhoi's deputy head Sergei
    Korotkov said at a news conference
    in Farnborough on Tuesday. "The
    [Su-35] aircraft has attracted a lot
    of attention," Korotkov said. "As
    part of our business plan, we
    expect to sell about 160 planes."
    The Su-35 fighter, powered by two
    117S engines with thrust vectoring,
    combines high maneuverability and
    the capability to effectively engage
    several air targets simultaneously
    using both guided and unguided
    missiles and weapon systems.
    The aircraft features the new Irbis-
    E radar with a phased antenna
    array, which allows the pilot to
    detect and track up to 30 air
    targets, while simultaneously
    engaging up to eight targets. It is
    equipped with a 30-mm cannon
    with 150 rounds and can carry up
    to eight tons of combat payload on
    12 eternal mounts. Sukhoi earlier
    said it plans to start deliveries of
    the new aircraft, billed as "4++
    generation using fifth-generation
    technology," to foreign clients in
    2011 and produce Su-35s over a
    period of 10 years up to 2020 RIA Novosti military commentator
    Konstantin Bogdanov
    Tags: MiG-35 , Rosoboronexport ,
    Anatoly Isaikin, India , Russia
    Multimedia
    MiG: between Past and Future
    Russian MiG-35 and MiG-29
    fighters perform aerobatics at
    MAKS-2011 air show
    Anatoly Isaikin, head of
    Rosoboronexport, Russia’s state
    arms exporter, was once again
    forced to address the string of
    setbacks plaguing Russian arms
    manufacturers in India over the
    past 12 months. This includes the
    long-suffering Mikoyan-Gurevich
    MiG-35 fighter, whose future on
    the domestic and foreign markets
    remains unclear. so after mmrca can we buy su-35 or mig-35???
     
  2. Manmohan Yadav

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    India will not buy either of them

    MiG-29 of the IAF will be upgraded to MiG-29 UPG
    it will be just as good as the MiG-35

    And about Su-35
    Indian Su-30 MKI will be upgraded to Su-30 Super Sukhoi
    It will be much better than Su-35
     
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    yes they help us to replace mig-27 and some time later mig-29. but i strongly prefere f-16in block 70.
     
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    no man super 30 is not batter than su-35. and mig-29upg is not batter than mig-35. 1ex. they both have aesa than 30,29 not.
     
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    both MiG-29 UPG and Su-30 Super of India
    will have a AESA after the upgrade as well.
     
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    o sorry. but i think they best for iaf
     
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    New fighter Jets are very expensive,
    it is much cheaper just to upgrade the Old fighter upto to new standards
    and its is much faster than building new fighters.

    So, new fighters of IAF in Future of next 10 years will be

    LCA Tejas Mk.II
    FGFA / PAK FA
    AMCA
    Rafale

    and that will be all, lesser the types of fighter an Air Force Has
    more is its Logistics and Operational efficiency.
     
  8. Sancho

    Sancho Lt. Colonel IDF NewBie

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    The Mig has Zhuk ME only, not the AESA and since it's based on the older Mig 29 airframe, it won't be as good as a Mig 35 / Mig 29 could be, but the advantages are not that much anyway.
    But you are right, that the Super 30 will be technically similar, in some fields (radar, EW) even better than the Su 35, which is why the latter won't benefit India as well.
    That's what many people forget thinking about Mig 35 and Su 35, that India already has the best Russia offers today and even the best that it offers for the future, FGFA.
     
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    Yup thats the reason is said in my post above
    MiG-29 UPG will be just as good as the MiG-35

    with Foreign Avionics and Electronics
    it will be on Par with the MiG-35
     
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    ok but which fighters offer we have??? an cane we bil new fighter(4++ or 4.5) of baseis m-4000 or lavi like j-10???
     
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    We can buy any of MiG-35 or Su-35
    but we wont

    we are already building 4++ generation fighter
    our very own LCA Tejas Mk.II
     
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    As I said, it can't be as good, because the 35 will have a lower RCS, AESA, better engines with TVC, more hardpoints, but the difference is not as much as compared to Mig 29UPG and Rafale and that is the important point. There is no use in adding a fighter that offer only very limited advantages for the next 30 years, that's why the 35 was rejected in MMRCA.

    What for? We already adding 3 x 4.5 gen fighters and at least 1 x 5th gen fighter within the next 10 years, so why should we need more?
    All older fighters will be replaced by Su 30, LCA, Rafale and FGFA, some by AURA UCAV and armed drones, so no additional fighter needed for IAF.
     
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    cane we bil new
    fighter(4++ or 4.5) of
    baseis m-4000 or lavi
    like j-10???
     
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    u forget amca.
     
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  15. Sancho

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    No, because it's currently only a concept offered by the industry, not a requirment asked by IAF or a government funded project so far.
     
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