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With Bhopal Encounter, All Suspects Of Pune Blast Case Now Dead

Discussion in 'International Relations' started by Levina, Nov 2, 2016.

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  1. Darth Marr

    Darth Marr Captain FULL MEMBER

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    @nair We do not know the manner in which they were shot and killed, let there be an investigation before judging what happened. a 2 minute Video of someone shooting at a body lying down proves nothing unless there is Video of the entire encounter.
     
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  2. Inactive

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    Shoot the knee caps. Rules of Engagement are very clear. This will ensure they are done for.
    Any shot over the knee is, as per law, an intent to kill.
     
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  3. nair

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    We all know the out come of any such investigation........
     
  4. Joe Shearer

    Joe Shearer VETERAN MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    How do you explain the shooting on the dead body (i think he was dead by then)
     
  6. Darth Marr

    Darth Marr Captain FULL MEMBER

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    So now you don't trust the investigation agencies because you feel the results of such an investigation will not be what you want ? Seriously.........
     
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  7. nair

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    It is not about what i want or you want........
     
  8. scorpionx

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    I did question your comprehension skills for some reason.
     
  9. nair

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    I think it is time for all of us to take a Tea Break.:coffee:....Those who prefer some thing hard.......:cheers:
     
  10. Darth Marr

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    I have one simple question, do you think that the agencies will carry out a honest investigation ?
     
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  11. Levina

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    Sir,
    Licentious content is different from overblown language.
    Lets not derail the thread. <thumbsup>
     
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    That is done to ensure a kill, apt for an ongoing counter-terror/insurgency operation wherein the anti-nationals are heavily armed and may be injured yet potent enough to cause more damage by presence of automatic weapons/grenades etc.

    I do not think justified here.
     
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  13. Inactive

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    There is one thing that the members and indeed, the citizens of India should be very clear about - the existence of India as a Legal State.

    What is a legal state?

    The concept is derived from the Germanic concept of "Rechtsstaat" or what can be loosely translated into Legal State. The concept is based upon, in simple terms, the concept of 'constitutional state', where the Constitution of a country/state holds supreme.

    The Constitutional principle of 'Freedom of Action' is the normative axiom from which the concept of a Legal State must be understood. It is emphatic in supposition that it is not the freedom of action, but the restriction of the same, that needs to be justified.

    Although Immanuel Kant has glorified the concept in his writings, it was Robert von Mohl who actually introduced the term in the German history of Law.

    According to the concept, while in a democracy it was the legislative monopoly of a democratically elected government of a State that ensured adequate protection of individual freedom, in states where there was no democracy/less than ideal democracy, it was the concept of a Legal State that undertook this task. The legality of the state was guaranteed by the supremacy of a constitution and drafting of the requisite statuettes/imposition of necessary restrictions on the power of the state, strengthening of the judiciary and separation of powers etc.

    In view of the fact that India is a Democratic Legal State, there is no denying that it is incumbent upon the State, irrespective of the Federal characteristic of the Executive, to adhere to the tenets of law, and to not merely hide behind the excuse of 'strive to uphold the law', but should uphold the law in every instance of it's action.

    In the present case, while there is no denying that the SIMI members escaped and in the process killed a Prison guard, and broke additional laws of the land over and above those of waging war on the nation and terrorising it's citizens, the State is bound by it's legal duty to follow the due course of law in dealing with them.

    All the errors that have been made, howsoever justified, do not exempt a Legal State of it's moral and legal obligation to uphold the very 'Text" from which it derives it's legitimacy and it's powers.

    Hence, while it is but a case of something coming to it's logical conclusion, the mannerism and the process or lack thereof, needs to be investigated, the necessary corrective measures undertaken and a dissuasive posturing be adopted to ensure that such incidents in contravention of the Laws of the Land, do not create a situation wherein the very set of laws that grants the government it's legitimacy and powers is challenged by it's own organs/departments, thereby undermining the legal basis of India as a Legal Nation State.
     
  14. randomradio

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    Tear gas makes people run away, that's not what we want here.

    I don't know why you believe Mods are out to get you. You can post whatever you want within the rules of the forum, the mods won't trouble you for that.

    Personally, I would wait for NIA to finish investigations before jumping to conclusions. The fact is they escaped voluntarily. And committed murder, that's enough of a reason to gun them down.

    Would you rather rely on speculation to build a case?

    Why did all 8 have to run away then?

    If villagers were present, then that's plenty of eye witnesses.
     
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    There is a witness, the other cop who was tied.
     
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