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With its India obsession, Pak digging its own grave: US

Discussion in 'International Relations' started by BlueOval, Jul 27, 2010.

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  1. BlueOval

    BlueOval Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Pakistan's obsession with India is leading it to "dig its own grave" as the ISI's "destructive role" now stands exposed in the wake of the revelations by classified intelligence documents, a leading US lawmaker has said. "The ISI's attempt to distinguish good from bad militants will spin out of control. With its obsession with India, Pakistan is digging its own grave," Congressman Ed Royce told Press Trust of India (PTI) in the wake of WikiLeaks revelations.
    "I've been speaking about the destructive role of Pakistan's ISI for many, many years. I've read this headline before," Royce, Co-Chair of the Congressional Caucus on India and Indian Americans, said when asked about the WikiLeaks revelation, which revealed that ISI continues to help and assist al-Qaeda and the Taliban.

    Reacting to the WikiLeaks posting of more than 92,000 classified documents on the war in Afghanistan, several Congressmen condemned the release of such secret documents but expressed concern over the continued links between ISI and the Taliban and al-Qaeda.

    "These leaked documents, while troubling, appear to support what I was asserting for years: the war in Afghanistan was not going well, and we needed a real strategy for success," Senator Ike Skelton, Chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said.

    "These leaked reports pre-date our new strategy in Afghanistan and should not be used as a measure of success or a determining factor in our continued mission there," he said.

    The publication of highly-classified documents was deeply troubling and a serious breach of national security, Senator John McCain said, adding the source of the leak within the US government should face the full penalties of the law.

    "Some of these documents reinforce a longstanding concern of mine about the supporting role of some Pakistani officials in the Afghan insurgency," Senator Carl Levin said.

    Levin said he and Senator Jack Reed, during their recent visit to Islamabad, had strongly urged officials to take forceful action against militant networks using Pakistan as a base to attack Afghanistan and American troops.

    "The materials - which cover the period from 2004 to 2009 - reflect the reality, recognised by everyone, that the insurgency was gaining momentum during these years while our coalition was losing ground," Senator Joe Lieberman said in a statement.

    "We should give General Petraeus and our troops on the ground the time and support they need to succeed. Although we know that the path ahead is difficult, we also know that the consequences for our national security will be catastrophic if we abandon this effort and allow the Taliban and their allies to regain a safe haven in Afghanistan. That is the path back to 9/11," Lieberman said.

    In particular, the documents highlight a fundamental strategic problem, which is that elements of the Pakistani security services have been complicit in the insurgency, Senator Russ Feingold said.

    "That, combined with competing agendas within the Afghan security forces, make it clear that there is no military solution in Afghanistan."

    On February 2, during an open Senate Intelligence Committee hearing, Feingold had asked the then Director of National Intelligence Dennis Blair about Pakistan's "continued support to militant proxies and about the assistance provided by some of those groups to al-Qaeda".

    Senator Kit Bond, Vice Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said it is shocking that any American, much less someone in the Pentagon, would betray his country and possibly put soldiers at risk by leaking information on the ongoing war in Afghanistan.

    "The damage to our national security caused by leaks like this won't stop until we see more perpetrators in orange jump suits," he added.

    With its India obsession, Pak digging its own grave: US - Hindustan Times
     
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    prototype Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    and that is what we also want:love:
     
  3. BlueOval

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    'India obsession holds back Pakistan in terror fight'

    'India obsession holds back Pakistan in terror fight'

    Washington: Pakistan's envoy to the US Husain Haqqani has acknowledged that Islamabad's 'preoccupation with India' was a factor that came in the way of its doing more to show its commitment to fighting terror.

    'And then, above all, there is a concern that India is not reconciled to our sort of nationhood and statehood. And so those are concerns that are reflected in public opinion,' Haqqani told PBS.

    'And the government also has to deal with the view that the United States has not been a consistent friend of Pakistan. And if we do too much at the behest of the United States, the US could leave us in the lurch and walk away again.


    'Pakistan became an ally of the United States in the 50s. We were part of the Southeast Asia and the Central Treaty Organizations,' Haqqani said.

    'And yet Pakistan's concerns about India were not addressed by the Americans, and several concerns about our region were not understood or fully comprehended by Pakistan's various leaders.'

    Islamabad has no intention of trying to carve out a sphere of influence in Afghanistan, he said but is indeed 'concerned about the influence of India in Afghanistan'.

    Haqqani said: 'We are concerned about the influence of India in Afghanistan because we have had conflict with India and we do not want to have a situation in which we are caught in a pincer movement.'

    'But the solution to that lies in talking to the Indians, talking to the Afghans, and we are doing both. We want good relations with our neighbours, have no intention of trying to carve out a sphere of influence in Afghanistan,' he added.

    Asked to comment on US joint chiefs of staff chairman Admiral Mike Mullen's statement that Pakistan spy agency ISI's links to Lashkar-e-Taeba (LeT) as well as the Haqqani Network was unacceptable, Haqqani said 'Mullen's views are views that are understood and also shared at the highest levels of government in Pakistan.'

    'Lashkar-e-Toiba is a banned group in Pakistan. But there are elements connected to that group that still operate, and Pakistan is dealing with that.'

    The Pakistani government is working very hard at bringing about normalcy in relations with India, but there are outstanding issues that keep cropping up there as well, he said and added: 'So what we are trying to do is deal with several of these issues at a time when we have severe economic and social pressures within our society.'

    Claiming that the 'historic relationship' between ISI and the Taliban was a reality of the post, Haqqani said, 'the government in Pakistan, including our military and our intelligence services, are very clear about the future direction.'

    Pakistan was worried 'about the endgame in Afghanistan', he said. 'But Pakistan does not want a return of the Taliban to Afghanistan.

    'India obsession holds back Pakistan in terror fight'
     
  4. Naren1987

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    They're using the aid money for introducing weapons for conventional capabilities, when they should be spending it on developing a para military force,
     
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    prototype Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    ^^well who cares,even after spending so much on the defense they lag far behind as,thats enough
     
  6. Desi Jatt

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    well, they are spending because they are getting the money in form f aids....their economy is not strong enought o bear the defence expense on its own...other Islamic nations are more stronger economically but they dont have strong armed forces..does that meant hey cant spend on defence, but the would choose not to..where as Pakistan inspite of usingthe aid money on development is usingthe same for defence..in future when the aids stop flowing, then we'll see the difference between India and Pakistan...the gap will be ever growing with passing time.
     
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    What US said can be traced back as early as 1947. Even after partition, Pakistan which was formed on the basis of an Islamic state for Muslims of the sub continent attacked Kashmir even though as parties to the partition process, both India and Pakistan had agreed that the rulers of princely states would be given the right to opt for either Pakistan or India or—in special cases—to remain independent. This was the first time Pakistan back stabbed. And this backstabbing continues unabated.

    In short, we already know it from the time of our existence as a nation, what US just said.
     
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