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World needs to tell India enough is enough on Kashmir: PM Nawaz

Discussion in 'South Asia & SAARC' started by AbRaj, Jan 5, 2017.

  1. AbRaj

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    World needs to tell India enough is enough on Kashmir: PM Nawaz
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    Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif on Thursday said the world needs to tell India "enough is enough" with regard to its policy towards the freedom movement in held Kashmir.

    The premier was addressing an International Parliamentary Seminar on Kashmir held in Islamabad to discuss the prevailing situation in India-held Kashmir.

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    PM Nawaz addresses the International Parliamentary Seminar on Kashmir in Islamabad.─DawnNews


    "Seventy years of brutal repression and Kashmiri struggle in the face of that oppression have shown cries of freedom cannot be stifled by sounds of bullets," the PM added, calling for an end to the "continued suffering" of generations in IHK.

    Referring to Burhan Wani as a "vibrant and charismatic leader", the premier said that his "martyrdom has become a rallying point for the freedom loving people of the territory".

    The oppressors' efforts "to silent that one voice have unleashed a thousand more", he said at the conference organised by the Young Parliamentarians Forum of the National Assembly.

    He said that a promise was made to Kashmir 70 years ago, not only by Pakistan and the United Nations, but also by India to recognise the people's right to self-determination.

    PM Nawaz spoke about the efforts made to highlight the plight of the Kashmiri people at international fora and told the conference that Pakistan would continue to support the struggle of the people in the region.
     
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  2. Inactive

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    I agree. Enough of nonsense we have been spewing. Time to reclaim own territories.
     
  3. Sathya

    Sathya Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    I guess this is their reply to mass grave found in Baluchistan..
    Before world uses the option of enough is enough..
     
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    HariPrasad Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    We need to strip Pakistan for killing innocent Baluchis. We need to strip them for their bombing in village and executing the people by military court and killing people in sindh.
     
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  5. AbRaj

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    Ah Never mind .
    Usual terrorist apology. That's we we call this country "terrorist hub" of Asia
     
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    World doesnt have any time to hear the whining of Pakistan
     
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    LOL .. more like of the world .... Homeland is a testament to the view of Pakistan at street level.
     
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  8. AbRaj

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    I think the basic plot of the drama was real and is basically collection of various events happened in Pakistan
     
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  9. Lion of Rajputana

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    Other than an all out war (not much of an option), or waiting for Pakistan to cause its own disintegration (too far into future, too much uncertainty), is there any other way India could conceivably go about taking back parts or all of PoK?

    Is there any scope for India to somehow create an insurgency in PoK? We have more money than Pakistan, the fact that people can sneak across the border goes both ways, and from what I've seen there seem to be dissatisfied elements in PoK too.
     
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    You mean, exactly what Pakistan has been doing in different padts of India for decades?

    How is that working out for them? India has learnt its lessons and can't play this game, the returns are minimal and the risk of blowback all too real.
     
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    How is it working out for them? That depends on what their goal is. It hasn't gotten them Kashmir.

    But it's gone great for them in terms of bleeding us when it comes to money and soldiers' lives. It also has quite a demoralizing effect.

    Taking the fight to PoK (among other places in Pak) would also probably reduce the pressure Pakistan tries to put on Kashmir. Because right now we're pretty much exclusively on the defensive, we do try to intercept intruders at the border but other than that we are just waiting for those who successfully cross over to attack (troops or civilian targets) and then we find and kill the attackers.

    If we created a troublesome situation for them in PoK, they would have to deal with that before creating all this mischief in Kashmir, and it'd almost certainly reduce the amount of attacks and casualties that we suffer by exclusively playing defense.

    While my question overall was about methods of securing PoK, this point that we are discussing pertains more to the topic of should we purely play defense in Kashmir or at least play offensive defense?
     
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  12. vsdoc

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    Let me be blunt here. If we want their mindset to change, we need to light a fire under their arse. And when I say their I mean Punjab. And only Punjab.

    Going after Balochistan is strategic and economically crippling for them. But we are not hitting them where it matters.

    Going after KP and coming in from Iran and Afghanistan, again we are playing in already very muddied waters.

    The northern areas are strategic. Mainly as a land bridge. And I always wonder what buffoonery it was not to push forward once we stemmed the tide in '48. Before they had time to consolidate, dig in, and arm.

    We need to understand something very clearly. Pakistan is not a nation like India is. So we need to stop looking at them as a similar entity and planning our responses on the same template.

    It is a malignant tumor, highly aggressive and cancerous, which has seeded in surrounding tissue and derives its sustenance from there. Sucking it of nutrients and seeding and replacing in greater measure. A giant sucker parasite.

    But unless we go for the main body of the tumor, it's not going to help poking at its satellite arms. Just deprive it of nutrients temporarily, while it metastasizes in a different plane.

    Hope that's clear enough.

    Cheers, Doc
     
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  13. Lion of Rajputana

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    I say all of the above. Turn up the heat in areas that want to separate. And simultaneously make Pakistani Punjab an absolute living hell.
     
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    I agree, but I was referring to economy of action versus effect.

    Let's face it, with Partition they got the lion's share of Punjab.

    And in terms of a people and territory and wealth and most importantly military control, it is a nation in itself.

    We can keep hitting elsewhere, the Punjabi military moulvi Jihadi nexus will just hunker down.

    Eventually, even if the northern areas, KP n FATA, Balochistan, and even Sindh all break away, the Punjabi nation will still be at war with us and keep hitting and chipping away.

    We need to make them pay a price where they are forced to dip into their own wallets. Only then might we have an opportunity of them stopping.

    Everything else just squeezes them. But does not strangle.

    Cheers, Doc
     
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    Okay world, please tell us and let's get back to the jobs.
    Inke saath time kyu barabaad karna.
     

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