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Yet another twist in IAF's mega fighter deal.

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  1. ColdPlay

    ColdPlay Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Yet another twist in IAF's mega fighter deal.

    Ajai Shukla in New Delhi

    The elimination of four aircraft vendors from the $9.5 billion global competition to sell 126 medium multi-role combat aircraft to the Indian Air Force has not been accepted quietly.

    Business Standard has learned that the ministry of defence (MoD) has already received letters from all four inquiring why their fighters were found unfit.

    The first inquiry was from Russia, asking why the IAF had found the MiG-35 unsuitable.

    Next was the US Embassy in New Delhi, asking for the specific reasons that had led to the elimination of the two American fighters, the Boeing F/A-18 Super Hornet; and the Lockheed Martin F-16IN Super Viper.
    MoD sources also confirm that Sweden's Gripen International has written in, seeking details of why the fancied Gripen NG fighter was ruled out.

    Earlier, on 27th April, the MoD had written to the four vendors briefly outlining, but not detailing, the reasons for their elimination. The remaining two vendors --- Eurofighter GmbH; and Dassault of France --- were asked to extend the validity of their price bids, given two years earlier.

    Vendor protests after elimination from a tender would usually be rejected as a pro forma exercise. This time, however, a MoD procedural error could provide vendors with a lever to claw their way back into contention.

    The MoD's Technical Oversight Committee (TOC), which must review the IAF's technical evaluation and flight trials to ascertain that procurement procedures were followed in full, had not completed its work before the MoD sent out the rejection letters.
    It remains unclear why the MoD sent out its rejection letters before the TOC had ensured full compliance with procedures.

    Now, the three-man TOC -- headed by the Scientific Advisor to the Defence Minister, VK Saraswat, and with Bharat Electronics Limited chief, Ashwini Datt and the IAF's Air Marshall Anil Chopra as members -- is scrambling to complete this mandatory review.

    Aviation experts apprehend that this procedural lacuna could be exploited by one of the "politically influential vendors" (read Boeing and Lockheed Martin) to re-enter contention.

    Senior IAF officers, however, emphatically rule out selecting either American fighter.

    Says an IAF officer involved in the selection process: "The US companies, which flaunt their technological leadership, are feigning hurt that their fighters were found technologically unsuitable. But it was their misjudgement to offer the IAF fighters like the F-16 and the F-18 that are decades old. It is arrogance to claim that these have been modernised and are good enough for a country like India. But if they wanted to argue technology, they should have fielded the F-35."
    The Russian vendor, RAC MiG, is also upset with the IAF's rejection but for another reason.

    "The MiG-35 has been developed in Russia as a natural replacement for the 2000-odd MiG-21s that are in coming to the end of their service lives in tens of air forces around the world. With the IAF -- a bastion of MiG fighters -- rejecting the MiG-35, the Russian builder worries about the negative signal that this will send across the world," points out Pushpindar Singh, aerospace expert and editor-in-chief of the trade magazine, Vayu.

    Meanwhile, Gripen International is fine-tuning its strategy for appealing the IAF's rejection.

    According to the MoD's letter to the company, the Gripen NG was found non-compliant with the IAF's tender requirements on 51 counts, of which 43 relate to the critical Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar.
    Gripen International argues that it is unfair to say that the IAF has not been provided "proof of technology", or proof that the Gripen NG's Selex AESA radar (which is still under development) has surmounted the key technological obstacles needed for operationalising it in time for delivery to India.

    That is because Selex (in partnership with Euroradar) is also developing the Eurofighter's AESA radar, which the IAF has accepted as technologically viable, and likely to be ready in time for delivery to India.

    Gripen points out that if Selex has convinced the IAF about having mastered the technology for the Eurofighter's AESA radar, that same technology will drive the Gripen NG's radar.

    But IAF sources reveal that Gripen failed to provide proof that their AESA radar development was on track and that they could integrate that radar on a fighter.
    In contrast, Dassault had fitted two prototype AESA radars on Rafale fighters, proving that they were close to completion.

    Eurofighter too test-flew a prototype AESA radar for the IAF evaluation team, convincing them that it would be ready by 2014-15.

    So far, all six vendors had conspicuously praised the MMRCA technical and flight evaluation procedures, declaring that this was the most professionally handled competitive procurement that they had ever encountered anywhere.

    Now, clearly, the gloves are off.

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  2. Coltsfan

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    Hardly a twist I say.

    It was expected for the organizations that aren't short listed to seek detailed clarification as to why they did not make the cut.

    Shukla trying to get more hits for his story I guess.
     
  3. tariqkhan18

    tariqkhan18 Major Staff Member ADMINISTRATOR

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    There are no twists left. Like Colts said, once you are out. You are done.

    All info has been provided to those who didn't make it.

    A detailed report.
     
  4. Skull and Bones

    Skull and Bones Doctor Death Staff Member MODERATOR

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    So when can we expect the deal to be signed?
     
  5. ColdPlay

    ColdPlay Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    5-6 months I hope.
     
  6. Dilemma

    Dilemma Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    This where the real negotiations begin and it might take quite some time. I wouldn't be surprised if the deal is not signed before 2012.
     
  7. MyRaven

    MyRaven 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    A case of sour grapes I guess.
     
  8. WARrior

    WARrior 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    u never know guyz. actually army decided 2 out of 6 as both meet indian requirements.

    now its upon the north-south blocks to decide the final and i promise u wud be dissapointed if u trust our famed babus.

    infact now starts the whole political game.

    i aint worried about the change in selection, its just this twist will only delay the procurement.

    its just i cant wait to see the mean machines inducted ASAP. :smile:
     
  9. Not Sure

    Not Sure 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Not just sour grapes.

    It was a competition, and the fighter jets that lost it will be considered inferior to the winners in the arms market. Getting knocked out of a fair competition will depreciate the value of those fighter jets and will affect all their future markets and prices. Hence the concern.
     
  10. Wolf 9

    Wolf 9 Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    It looks funny when people do like this.
    They want to clarify the previous clarification .
     
  11. JanjaWeed

    JanjaWeed Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    maybe all those four vendors are asking for their money back & MOD is twisting this story alltogether!! Vendors should have known beforehand that paying backhanders in advance to our babus is not such a great idea afterall!!
     
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  12. Wolf 9

    Wolf 9 Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    I think inferior is wrong word or used in wrong place.
    All of them six aircrafts are good .No matter IAF buy them or not.
    How many time other countries rejected Rafale ?
    Does it means Rafale is an inferior aircraft, or prices gone down for Rafale ?
    Even Gripen also got rejected from few countries in past . What about Gripen than , inferior aircraft ?
    Even though more than 50% IAF MRCA aircrafts are going to meet again in N- MRCA.

    It is nothing like inferior or superior .
    But the only thing is - As per IAF- which aircraft is the best suitable for them . They are the buyer and end user of all 126+ aircrafts .
     
  13. simplystupid

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    I think, four players who are not down selected - wanted know process of down selection and feed back. this is normal process in International bidding process.
     
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